> I don't see a need for libreboot where we are going because there already
exists other free bootloaders.
Of course, this is your persective, based on the assumption that libreboot
only integrates for it. The actual build system in libreboot is quite
flexible. We've discussed in the past, the possibility of integrating other
projects besides coreboot; u-boot is one such project that we discussed.
In my mind, there's absolutely no good reason why libreboot can't target
u-boot (most ARM hardware uses u-boot, not coreboot) and coreboot (lots of
x86 hardware, some ARM hardware). In fact, this discussion has made me want
to re-visit this, especially after considering that most of ARM uses u-boot.
Fun fact about coreboot ARM support; it was actually derived originally from
u-boot, at least on the Chromebooks. U-boot sounds like "U-Boat", German
submarines used during WWII. A common explosive that the British used to sink
U-Boats was called a "depth charge", an explosive dropped into the water, at
the precise moment calculated to explode and sink the target U-Boat. A lot of
U-Boats were sunk.
So coreboot assimilated U-Boot, for adding ARM support. U-Boot sunk, taken
over instead by coreboot. Guess which Google calls their default payload for
ARM chromebooks (with coreboot)?
Depthcharge!
> The technical work might be, but I don't think the approach is.
> The approach matters because depending on which approach you take it'll
> take longer to get where you are going (a completely free world).
We would like to improve our approach and our appeal to the public, so as to
push the project forward faster.
> I get that your saying sticking to your guns is more important. I get that
and I respect that.
> It's just not necessary to only stick to your guns. You can have a better
road map and still stick to your guns.
We'll get behind any project that we think is beneficial, and incorporate
that (or otherwise promote it).
We improve all the time. To me, having more contributors (full time
developers) is the answer, and that's hard in any project. But we also need
to change the landscape with manufacturers, chip makers and so on. That's
*hard*, and will likely take many years, if it even happens.
> I don't know what changed or why- but I'm glad. Please have more good days!
A combination of self-reflection, and comparing to similar situations that
I've observed in the past.
Likewise, I hope that you continue your work.
> We all have bad days... but... it's a real time waster when we argue.
> I'll try not to say things to upset you. We're all just looking at all this
from different angles
> and it's not hard to misunderstand each other. Or for that matter remember
something slightly differently.
I won't say that you were faultless in all of this, but neither was I. We
both kind of messed up a bit, didn't we?
> I hope everybody is happy now! This feud is over (I think?).
Yep. It's all fine now.
