>I disagree and let anybody who cares (probably nobody) judge.

I care.

I also agree that heyjoe's posts are for the most part defeatist and demotivating.

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I'm not sure what threat model he is thinking about or what he wants to achieve. This is what I distill from the hundreds of posts:

* Every attempt at privacy, security and computer freedom is moot because hardware is insecure.

* We should not try to do "the best we can" because that is not a measure of anything (?!).

* Firefox is no good because a tcpdump showed that it sends packets to other servers. Chromium did not send packets using that same, very limited test (as Magic Banana has explained). Therefore Chromium is better even though it contains obfuscated code and non-free licenses.

* Meanwhile, heyjoe has just written on another post in this thread that he uses Gmail, a "service" whose main function is data mining and surveillance, made by a company whose main business model is data mining and surveillance, and who have been shown to belong to the PRISM NSA surveillance program, among many other possible privacy and security related red flags.
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The above makes me believe that either heyjoe is just a troll, or he refuses to think in a logical manner, or perhaps he just refuses to admit when he is wrong. What I am sure about is that he does not want to contribute to anything positive to any discussion I have so far witnessed, except by complaining and shooting down solutions when they are given to him (as the empty github repo and Magic Banana's unused contributions prove).

Frankly, all the threads I have seen heyjoe participate in, have become onanistic and meaningless, including the web browser thread which included heyjoe's interesting tcpdumps, but which he later turned into agressions against Magic Banana to cover for his inability or unwillingness to collaborate with others to create solutions to the problems he discovered.

There are several people here that have made this forum a worthwhile place for me to read, some for the past few months, others over the years, and who I will stand up to defend if I feel they are being wronged (Magic Banana, Jxself, Quantumgravity, Mason, Supertramp and many others, such as Lembas, who btw I no longer see), many of whom I have been able to count on throughout the years to help solve problems, either my own or those of other trisquelians.

So I care.

And I judge.

I hope heyjoe will stick around if he can contribute to making this forum a better place. For now, I see the very opposite of that happening. So far, heyjoe keeps going out of his way to create polemic and turn any discussion into a pointless thread that never ends.

I am usually against moderators and control over the flow of thoughts and ideas in forums. These past few weeks I have, for the first time as far as I remember, found myself wishing that this forum had more moderation.

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