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On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Mickel <[email protected]>wrote:
> ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > > Hi Aarre > Sorry if I caused you some embarressment over that question, I just see > something and ask the question, it would not occur to me to think about if > it was a public forum or not > It's a good job you don't have a live conversation with me you would be > pretty confused after a short while, we right brained people (to use a > model) jump about all over the place depending what idea or picture is > brought up into mind by what the other person says. > Don't worry about the embarrassment; I already resolved it. No one else is posting much these days, except Colleen, so we really aren't displacing anyone elses stage here. If there was a lot of email traffic from others, my may feel differently. When the cats are away, the mice will play; is that a good metaphor? > I don't use my second name, I don't actually like it, I dunno why, I > think it's something to do with the fact that my name or names is not > actually who I really am, I often get a false or pretend feeling about it > when I use them, that's probably a bit weird, but there you go. > > >> > I believe most of my upset is in past lives, but several, including Robert > Ducharme, who developed R3X (routine 3 expanded), have suggested that most > of this lifetime charge/upset is tied up in prenatal incidents. I haven't > decided what to believe about it yet, but it stands to reason that you can > create a lot more postulates in 76 trillion years than you can in one > lifetime. But the postulates relating to this lifetime might be given a lot > more importance/weighting/emphasis, and thus be more 'keyed in' than the > not current stuff. Dennis talked about importance/urgency/intensity in a > postulate being important in how it affects us. I know that I don't know, > and that's a higher awareness than I had when I was a teenager. When I was > a teenager, I arrogantly thought that I knew everything. The more that I > learn, the more that I realize that I don't know a lot still. It ultimately > probably doesn't matter anyway, as long as one is doing the TROM the way > that we've been told works. I currently agree with Dennis that everything > in the physical universe is knowable, and that when we get to the completion > of level 5, we can know it if we want to. I can't prove that that datum is > true, but have decided to accept it as a truth for working purposes under > the postulate that I will find out when I get there if it's true or not. I > believe that we won't be disappointed. Actually, my compulsion to know > everything is shrinking as I do my TROM, and I get more balanced on the 4 > know postulates. > > I dunno, I feel as if I am on a different path to what a Scientologist for > example would have in mind or rather the ideas and tech LRH produced, I > think I have written before that there appear to me to be people who want > more of the physic universe, greater power over it, higher ability, like the > OT levels, I don't find that. > What I want is less and less of the physical, The peace that passeth all > understanding is a good way of putting it. > Maybe people or should I say Beings are at different points on a spiritual > cycle. > I cannot bypass or ignore what I really feel or my experience, all this, > the PU I mean is as nothing, it's not serious or important, it has no value > to me in the aquisition of goods, chasing after lots of sex for instance, > aquireing great ego status, Place me in the open countryside with huge space > about me, what else do I need. > > I myself am in an ongoing doubt condition about the above mentioned. The > great status and aquisition of goods isn't that important to me either. > Anything we do with the PU (pee yuuu !, or was that physical universe; yes > it stinks![?]) is obviously games play sensation. As I mentioned earlier, > I don't really know what I want with it yet, until I'm able to flush it all > away at a whim. At this point, it would be fun to be able to 'generate' or > turn off 'generation' of physical objects at will. I would find that great > fun. [?] If you like to watch bar room fights, I'd think that you would > like this excitement also. If one of the bar room brawlers could make his > body disappear when someone was going to cut it with glass, and then > re-appear 5 feet away in a different location, wouldn't that be a lot of > excitement/fun? If it had to be a choice of physical versus just > spiritual, I would pick spiritual anytime, because spiritual is prime cause, > is senior to the physical universe, and created the physical universe > anyway. The spirit created MEST, not the other way around. The MEST boys > dedicated only to physical games, and no spirituality obviously don't > realise that. > > I agree. My many past track incidents are beyond this lifetime belief. Ask Colleen; she's audited me well over a hundred hours all over the time track. I couldn't have dreamed that stuff up out of my wildest imagination! > > I don't deny that you can find many past lives and so on in people, it's > quite an interest of mine actually, I may pick it up again sometime in the > future, I got to be honest though, it's more like just a fun game to me, > like discovering unknown thiings, I have more of a mindset of bringing > people into the present and then asking them what goals they would like to > achieve, that will bring them alive and into creating. > > That makes sense. > >> > > What happened in July? Do you have current pain? > > The tecnical name is Aortic dissection: > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001233 > And I still have pain but have a positive mental attitude and I am feeling > better every day. > > > , but I have a lot of anecdotes. Do you remember that in the Marcab > Confederacy, there were race tracks, where they raced to the 'death', and > only the winner got to live. > > I have read that or heard it, it's beyond my reality level to be honest, I > don't see past lives or earlier universe in my mind, I have seen many > strange mental picture I have never been able to make out what they are, > it's odd that, I can see them but I can't describe them, it's like there is > a disconnection between the picture and being able to decribe it in my mind. > I don't have that problem with this lifetime pictures only with those very > strange ones. > > It all 'straightens out in the wash (auditing)'. As long as you acknowledge, and accept whatever you see, and don't figure it out/ evaluate it/ think about it/ dissect it/ invalidate it/ introvert over it, your confront scale will probably come up and you'll see more and more of those strange things. You 'paid the ticket' to see it so to speak, so just enjoy the show, and let it freely flow. For instance, if you see a purple elephant with orange wings jumping out of a tree and flying to another tree, don't immeadiately invalidate it. Admire/watch it, and it may be a dub-in on the confront scale. If you allow it to, it may morph/progress/change to something that seems more 'real'. But if you don't allow your confront to come up on it, it may not have a chance to go up the confront scale to something more recognisable. I hope you enjoy the show![?] > > > IT'S MY SINCERE BELIEF THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ABSOLUTELY TURN OFF THE > PHYSICAL UNIVERSE TOTALLY FOR OURSELVES BEFORE WE CAN PROPERLY ASSESS JUST > HOW MUCH OF IT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE. That is my opinion. I believe that we > can't properly assess how much 'games sensation' is optimum for each of us > while we are still in the mess. > > That is if a Being is into playing games, I hope and I really do that after > this complete muck up of a life is over there will be no "I" that wants to > experience any of this again, I need bloody good rest, to sit back in > eternity and watch the clouds roll by. > I hope you are not finding this too depressing :) > I should have written this reply another time it might have come out a bit > more cheerful. > > That doesn't depress me; It sounds like your spiritual thermometer needs to find it's correct set point/ rest point. Mine does too. I'm counting on pushing the AC (all clear) button on all my negative past by turning off all my oppostion postulates, and then reset to whatever preferred setting later on, as I've earlier mentioned. Like LRH said, never regret your past, you make your future. That easier said than done somedays, I know. > > I still plan on having a go at level 4 of TROM when I have a few things > sorted out here, I am aware that there quite a few hidden or forgotten areas > in my early childhood, It will be interesting if that particular process can > bring them to light > > I think we'll all get a lot sorted out. My challenge is to keep my body ruds in, as until the middle, and perhaps the end of March, I operate a salting truck to keep the snow and ice off the highways, and I'm doing it as a live-in on site. Last night I got to sleep at 5am after doing 2 salting routes. I'm going to do a session soon, before I get called out again. Trucking is only a means to an end, but it sure beats factories! > >> Anyway, take care >> Best >> Mike >> > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >
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