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> > > "Calling a victim aberrated is an easy way to excuse the perpetrator and > pretend the injustice doesn't exist. If there was no pain or injustice > inflicted where does the aberration come from? Why not focus on the > abberration of the perpetrators, those who seek power by limiting the power > of others, often by inflicting pain and injustice? Clearly, misogyny exists > in their minds as well." > > I am not sure who wrote the above but ...in regards to: the idea of perpetrator being the cause of problems.... is in contradiction to Dennis' and Hubbard's doctrine.. which says the victim made all the decisions to be victimized. I have been severely abused as a child and I have been told by every scientologist and then by the data in TROM that I was to blame and caused all my own suffering, all my own injustice. In other words, I made all my own postulates to be abused. So what are the facts???????????? I need to know the facts. David > > Hi Glen > TROM does not focus on others misbehavior because there is no workable > technology to get others to behave nicely. > > If i want to be a victim in a game it doesn't matter how many criminals i > change into nice people I will find some one to be a victim to. > > The solution to all misbehavior in this universe is for me to find and > timebreak all the games i am compulsively playing and stop playing them. When > i am free to not play a game i will not end up being a victim of someone > elses game. > > Changing me is something i can do. It is a fix for the problem which is > totally under my control. > Changing others to make them nicer is not something i can do without force > and that then becomes an overt and puts me back into a compulsive game. > > The idea of "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you" is an idea > that has been around for at least 2500 years yet we still have people > misbehaving. it is a failed proposition to try changing others by telling > them ot be nice or forcing them to be nice with law enforcers. > > So Glen, > > Keep on TROMing > Pete > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Glen Strathy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > ************ > > It also exists in that Hubbard quote, and in the unspoken rules - and > > sometimes written laws - of many societies. It is clearly visible to people > > outside the culture, but invisible to most participants. Hence, if you're > > inside it you don't believe it exists. > > > > I appreciate your point that some people can rise above those rules and > > exercise more power than what the rules would normally dictate for them, > > but individual exceptions do not negate what is normal. > > > > Calling a victim aberrated is an easy way to excuse the perpetrator and > > pretend the injustice doesn't exist. If there was no pain or injustice > > inflicted where does the aberration come from? Why not focus on the > > abberration of the perpetrators, those who seek power by limiting the power > > of others, often by inflicting pain and injustice? Clearly, misogyny exists > > in their minds as well. > > > > On 6/20/2012 11:18 PM, David M. Pelly wrote: > >> Misogyny only exists in the minds of aberrated women. > >> > >> And no where else. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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