************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Hi Martin i agree. Some people consider themselves victims and some do not.
The question is "is the loser in a game " responsible for his condition because he put himself in a game that he has now lost; or was he not playing any game and someone came along and smacked him so the loser was made the effect of a game that he had zero idea that he was involved in or playing. i take the position that the loser always has chosen to play a game and therefor has put himself at risk of losing. example, i am walking along minding my own business when an asteroid slams into the earth right on top of me. i chose to live this life time at this time when there was a very small chance of an asteroid hit so i am a victim of the asteroid because i chose to live here now. second exampe. i chose to live this life at this time as an American. America is running an empire that acquires great wealth by stealing it from the rest of the world. i therefor am playing the game of american citizen benefiting from this theft and by the other flow other people who are not amerian are looking for ways to get even or steal from america and americans. there is a very real chance that i will become the victim in this game as were the people in the Twin Towers in 2001. if so it is my fault for playing this very dangerous game. finally i take this point of view because i can only change what "I" do. i can make sure that i pay people what i have agreed to pay and thus ensure that i am not playing a "to steal" game. I can not join the military to avoid playing the game "do what we say or we'll will murder you". i can audit all the games where i blame others for mistreating me. blame is a sad game and i don't want to be on the recieving end of it. i also do not want to give anyone the power to hurt me which is the founding principle of the blame game. For these reasons i hold that i am the captain of my soul, i am the master of my fate and i will find out what i am doing that undermines this principle and correct it. Sincerely Pete Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Martin Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > On 23 June 2012 01:48, Pete Mclaughlin wrote: >> I can't speak for all other trommers or scientologists since i haven't >> polled them on their individual views. >> >> How do you feel about victims. Are they responsible for their state or >> blameless? >> > > Hi Pete, > > I think one should look at "victims" in terms of occurrence. > > The term "Victim" used disparagingly means someone who is using his status to > obtain sympathy and reward. > > In "WAR" we have victors and vanquished. In lesser games we speak of winners > and losers. > > BUT the vanquished or losers do not necessarily see themselves as "victims" > > They only become "victims" when they assume that identity. > > Regards, > > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
