Blaine, I'm not sure I understand you here. I understand that Adam and Eve would live forever, but wouldn't the animals also be in that position? Do you see death as existing among the animals before Adam & Eve sinned? Didn't all creation come under the curse that included sickness and death when Adam sinned? I would love to her your comments on this.
I find your comments interesting, because it seemed to me that DaveH took the Adam & Eve story as an allegory, not as something that actually happened. You seem to accept, like me, that there was a literal Adam & Eve. Is that correct? Concerning the passage you quote about pain in childbirth, do you consider childbirth itself to be part of the curse, and not just the pain in childbirth? Peace be with you. David Miller. > > Blainer wrote: > > > Well, the gist of it as I understand it is that > > > if they had not partaken of the fruit of the tree, > > > they would have remained in their innocent state > > > forever, and would have produced no offspring. > > > They were apparently immortal until they partook > > > of the fruit. "as in Adam all men die, . . . . etc." > > > > Is this Mormon teaching, that they would not have produced offspring > > simply > > because they were immortal? > Blainer) Yes They would have remained in a state of innocence and > immortality. > Genesis 2:25 "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and they > were not ashamed." > > But after eating the forbidden fruit, they knew they were naked, and were > ashamed. > Genesis 3:21 "Unto Adam also and to his wife Eve the Lord God did make > coats of skins, and clothed them. > > After Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, God first cursed the > serpent, then he cursed Eve, then Adam. Eve's curse was to bring forth > children in sorrow and discomfort, and to be subject to her husband. > Genesis 3: 16 "In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children . . . , and > . . thy husband . . shall rule over thee. > Genesis 3: 20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the > mother of all living." > Genesis 4:1 "Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived." (Only after > they had been driven out of the garden.) > > Does it apply to all of creation also? > Blainer) No > > > Did God > > cause the animals and plants not to reproduce until after the fall? > > Blainer) No, they were able to reproduce all along. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
