RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

[Pastor James P.S. Templeton]

I don’t think Jesus was ever an angel. He was always the Son of God even prior to his birth in Bethlehem, James Templeton   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 17 October 2002 07:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1   DAVEH:  Hi Michael.......I must apologize to you and others who've been asking questions to which I have not replied.  I have quite a few irons in the fire right now, and don't know when I'll dig out from under the load.  But.....I do feel obligated not to totally ignore you and the other TTers who've taken time to ask questions, so I'll respond as I have time.     Regarding your below question......I simply don't know how to answer it.  I am not the smartest student of LDS theology.  I am not aware of any distinction between 'arch angels', anointed cherubs and others.  When I get a chance, I'll do a small amount of research into the topic to see what other LDS folks have said about them.  I'll let you know if I find anything of importance.  In the mean time, perhaps Blaine has some thoughts about it.     As for your second question.......Jesus had an elevated status over Lucifer in the pre-mortal existence as I understand.  And certainly, when Lucifer rebelled he lost what heavenly status he previously had as he was ejected from heaven.  Does that help, Michael? Michael Douglas wrote: >From: "Michael Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael D:  Dave H: would you care to give ma an answer on this one, below?  I would really like to know how you all understand this. Michael D: Hey Blainer or Dave H, I an curious to know: as an angel, was Jesus an arch angel or a lesser one? Since Lucifer was the 'anointed cherub', was Jesus below him or above him? > > >Blainer) I have never heard anything about Satan and Jesus being >half-brothers. > What I have heard about is that we are all spirit brothers and sisters, >offspring of God. If Satan is a spirit, he must therefore logically be a >spirit offspring of the Father of all spirits, and is not only Jesus' >spirit-brother, but YOURS as well. Too bad Lucifer (his spirit name) >envied God's throne, rebelled against God, and tried to overthrow him, >huh? He might have ended up being a prophet in the Old testament, or >even better, a Prophet/President of the LDS Church, (:>) assuming of >course he would have taken on a body of flesh and blood. > But he was denied the privilege of tabernacling in the flesh, because >he made war in heaven, and actually overcame one-third of the hosts of >heaven. The other two-thirds are you and I and all others who were >allowed to take on mortal bodies. See Isaiah 14:12-17 >"How art thou fallen from HEAVEN, O Lucifer, son of the morning? . . . >" etc. Michael D:  Hey Blainer or Dave H, I an curious to know:  as an angel, was Jesus an arch angel or a lesser one? Since Lucifer was the 'anointed cherub', was Jesus below him or above him?  >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Blainer) I have never heard anything about Satan and Jesus being >half-brothers. > What I have heard about is that we are all spirit brothers and sisters, >offspring of God. If Satan is a spirit, he must therefore logically be a >spirit offspring of the Father of all spirits, and is not only Jesus' >spirit-brother, but YOURS as well. Too bad Lucifer (his spirit name) >envied God's throne, rebelled against God, and tried to overthrow him, >huh? He might have ended up being a prophet in the Old testament, or >even better, a Prophet/President of the LDS Church, (:>) assuming of >course he would have taken on a body of flesh and blood. > But he was denied the privilege of tabernacling in the flesh, because >he made war in heaven, and actually overcame one-third of the hosts of >heaven. The other two-thirds are you and I and all others who were >allowed to take on mortal bodies. See Isaiah 14:12-17 >"How art thou fallen from HEAVEN, O Lucifer, son of the morning? . . . >" etc. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~