From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Absent From The Body Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:43:39 -0500
You are being ridiculous.
By the way, go back and reread Paul. He said he was NOT taught by the Apostles.
shalom
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 27 May, 2003 08:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Absent From The Body
>
>
> So what you are saying, Slade, is that unless Paul attributes the words to
> Jesus, he could be just blowing smoke and we are not to believe what he
> says. So, I assume this is true for the rest of the bible authorss as
well.
> So, since only a portion of the Bible actually falls under the "Thus saith
> the Lord" category, we can effectively discount the rest.
>
> Paul does not speak as an idle bystander...he was taught by the apostles,
> probably is the one who was "taken up to the third heaven", and most
likely
> was even instructed by the Lord Himself. Yet you say that we cannot
believe
> him? I guess we'll just have to edit the Bible and throw out those parts
> that the Lord did not speak directly, because I was taught that the
> scripture was an inspired text, and that although the writers wrote in
their
> own styles, that the content was inspired by the Holy Spirit. Now you are
> saying Paul was free to throw in his own ideas and thoughts, which were
not
> inspired. I suppose now that most of the doctrinal writings of Paul, as in
> Romans, and to the churches in Asia must be thrown out, too, because most
of
> those works do not quote Christ directly. Likewise, I guess the churches
> receiving the letters were free to decide whether they liked Paul's ideas
> and whether or not they wanted to follow his doctrinal teachings.
>
> Wow, if this is so, I guess I will have to go back and re-read the Bible
and
> discount anything Paul said unless he attributes it directly to Jesus.
>
> Is this how you apply Paul's teaching?
>
> Perry
>
> >From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Absent From The Body
> >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:39:35 -0500
> >
> >Ok, Perry. Let's look at things logically...
> >
> >Paul is an interesting character. He attempts to make it clear when HE is
> >speaking and when it is THE LORD. Let me give you two examples...
> >
> >But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who
is
> >an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce
her.
> >(I Corinthians 7:12)
> >
> >But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they
> >remain even as I. (I Corinthians 7:8)
> >
> >
> >Isn't it interesting that Paul words seem to contradict Torah which says,
> >"BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY?" However, the point Paul is trying to make is
> >that we need to have devotion for YHVH first. Look at Paul's interesting
> >phrase... "I SAY." He says I SAY and even in one instance above, he says,
"
> >NOT THE LORD."
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >Now, let's look at your verse...
> >
> >Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at
> >home in the body we are absent from the Lord -- for we walk by faith, not
> >by sight -- we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent
> >from the body and to be at home with the Lord. Therefore we also have as
> >our ambition, whether at home or absent, to be pleasing to Him. For we
must
> >all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be
> >recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done,
> >whether good or bad. (II Corinthians 5:6-10)
> >
> >Did you catch it? Did you see the phrase I SAY?
> >
> >
> >I agree with Paul... I would rather be out of the body and present with
the
> >Lord. I would rather have a million dollars fall from the sky and land in
> >my house so I can pay for my schooling without worries of job, etc. Just
> >because I would rather doesn't mean it's fact.
> >
> >
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> >
> >People often talk about the soul being in the presence of the Lord upon
> >death and the body is resurrected. I see the soul as being resurrected
and
> >the body as plant food. I will get a new body and my corrupt personality
> >will become incorrupt. I can't wait for that day.
>
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