RE: [TruthTalk] So Long David Miller, and Thanks for the Fish

[Jonathan Hughes]

Judy,   I wish you had been more forthcoming of the fact that you are a card carrying cult member of the Jehovah Witness’.  At least your theology now makes sense to me.  One of the problems of creating your own theology from ones own bible reading and denying the use of other theologians is that one is unable to be able to place what one learns in a proper context.  There is no reference, other than a catch-all that the Spirit will teach me everything, to be able to sort through whether something is sound doctrine.  Even comparing scripture with scripture will get you nowhere if you have misunderstood the first (or second, third etc.) scripture.  You have greatly misunderstood the verse regarding the Spirit leading us into all truth.  Two questions:   1)  What are tomorrow night’s Lotto 649 numbers? 2)  What is the 4099888th digit of pi?   You will notice that although there are answers to the above questions the Spirit did not lead you into ‘truth’ regarding them.  Leading us into truth is not the same as leading us into all information.  This is why you, as a student of God’s word need to learn more about Greek and Hebrew.  To expect the Spirit to interpret the original intent while you lazily and mystically read your Bible is foolhardy.  So, we must ask ourselves, what is this truth that the Spirit will lead us into?  I would suggest that this truth is the Truth – Jesus Christ.  The Spirit will lead you to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  The Spirit will not do your Bible Studies for you.  He will not help you locate that next verse in the massive concordance that sits beside you as you read this.  Cults begin from people that think that it is just God, the Bible, and them.  This explains where you have gotten some of your cultic beliefs (other than from the Watchtower).   As much as you would like to deny it, to deny the eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ is pure heresy and places you outside of the ‘faith’ by orthodox standards.  Please note it does not place you outside of the faith for me.  To me you are wholly accepted.   And for the record I do not commend David Miller for his faithfulness to the truth.  Rather I commend him for his faithfulness to his opinion.  Unfortunately they are not one and the same.  It is because they are not that he had to leave Truthtalk.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 6:46 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] So Long David Miller, and Thanks for the Fish   In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.....  is the "faith" once delivered to the saints Jonathan.  We ought to be commending David Miller for his faithfulness to the Truth.  jht   On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:35:40 -0500 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dear David Miller, After weeks of deliberation all of us have come to a consensus that you must go.  I am sure that this is not a surprise to you.  The continual use of violent logic attacks on the members of Truthtalk and the continued plagiarizing of biblical texts contribute to this decision.  The pride exhibited in your continual use of the Latin term [sic] has put most of us over the edge.  Today you have stepped outside the bounds of the Christian faith.  By denying the eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ you have thrown away any claim to living out the faith that was once delivered to all saints.  You have said goodbye to historic orthodoxy and welcomed radical liberalism.  It is my duty to inform you, as seconded by Linda Shields, that you will now be shunned and removed from fellowship by all Truthtalk participants.  Once repentance, including copious amounts of tears has taken place you may apply for membership again by a handwritten note in Hebrew to Slade Henson.  It is hoped that by taking this action you will come to your senses and begin to act in a Christian manner.  Until then we must deliver you to the wiles and fancies of your mind.  Be safe, but be gone.   The Truthtalk Bouncer,  Jonathan Hughes   --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004