Re: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

[Bill Taylor]

Bill, to believe otherwise makes God the co-determiner of those who are lost�since He is control of everything, and our participation is not necessary.  Izzy   This may -- and I emphasize may -- be truth if God were willing to give up on you. But he is not willing to do that -- in fact, "He is not willing that any should perish but all should come to repentance." At the risk of offending you, I want to say that there is a relational dynamic at play here that you have yet to grasp. I believe as Torrance does, that God's "love will not let go. Even when a man has made his bed in hell God's hand of love will grasp him there." I had a professor who said that "hell is banging on the backside of grace"; in other words, hell would not be nearly so hellish, were not for the fact that God loves you and now you know it. Anyway, you can think about this and let me know what you think.   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment   The problem I have with your theology and the thing which drove me to search the Scriptures for greater answers, can be demonstrated in the egocentrism of your following statements: "He died to make [my salvation] possible and I took advantage of that possibility.  I turned from my sin, to Christ." I say this not to offend you but to point out that humanity has but one Savior, Christ Jesus our Lord. Your theology espouses a subtle but nonetheless fallacious form of co-redemption; by that I mean your gospel has at its center two Saviors: Jesus and yourself; for had you not taken advantage of the possibility of salvation offered you, and had you not turned from your sin, you would not have been saved. Am I correct? My friend, that makes you your own savior, along with him who died to make your salvation a contingent possibility. Do you not know in your heart that this is wrong?    Bill   Bill, to believe otherwise makes God the co-determiner of those who are lost�since He is control of everything, and our participation is not necessary.  Izzy