Re: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

[Bill Taylor]

Only God by His grace can do that, as I have tried.  And this comes from one that you think is �works� oriented; thus lost.  Izzy     I don't think you are lost, Izzy. Please don't think that I do.   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:21 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:30 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment   Bill seems to not understand that the scriptures he quoted were regarding those who have repented and received Christ as Lord & Savior�not those who have not.    Perhaps, Izzy, it would do me good to have you explain to me how the universally inclusive language of verses like Col 1.13-14, 16-17, 19-20; 2.9 and 13-15, apply only to those who have "repented and received" Christ as Lord and Savior -- but not to those who have not. You are correct that this letter is written to the "saints," but I fail to see how Paul's language in the verses mentioned above is inclusive only of them (it was after all while even the saints of his address "were dead" that Christ made them alive together with him, having forgiven them all their trespasses. What, pray tell, can a cadaver do to activate her own salvation?). In fact, it looks to me that Paul intentionally expands and then narrows his address repeatedly throughout the first two chapters of this letter, sometimes referencing and including all of the created order and other times speaking specifically to the ministry of Christ's "body, which is the church." So please, Izzy, set me straight :>)  Bill   Only God by His grace can do that, as I have tried.  And this comes from one that you think is �works� oriented; thus lost.  Izzy