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WHO JESUS IS IS THE ISSUE! Gentlemen:(Blaine, DaveH
and, lurkers) If Jesus is not the logos asarkos then, we have no gospel! I heard
a couple of kids playing on the street the other night and, one said to the
other 'do the math'.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 06:55
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
How can your Jesus have different attributes than my Jesus and
still be the same person?
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be
agreed? Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH:
Logically, the onus is not upon me to define the Jesus I believe in, but
rather it is on the person who suggests I don't believe in Jesus.
FTR....I have not said that the Jesus Kevin, you Perry or any other TTer
believes in is a false Jesus.
Lance Muir wrote:
DaveH says "Kevin, I believe in Jesus." IFF
we are going to engage in a conversation that entails reality, then we
have to continue to build upon that which has been said
previously.According to you THE JESUS TO BE BELIEVED IN IS MOST FULLY
AND ACCURATELY DESCRIBED WITHIN MORMON TEACHING. Is this so? The
Jesus believed in by Kevin, Perry, Lance et al is a false Jesus. Is this
not also so? (unwieldy but, you get my point)What, IYO, are the eternal
consequenses for non-Mormons?
Mr. Moderator:Please grant DaveH the
opportunity of fully answering and, explaining.
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Original Message -----
Sent:
June 19, 2005 23:02
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
DAVEH: FTR Kevin, I believe in Jesus.
Therefore can we conclude that you've made the judgment rather than
God?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
He will!
He
Has!
JN 3:18 He that believeth on him is
not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned
already
DAVEH:
I fully understand that, Perry. But I'd feel more comfortable
letting God make that judgment than you.
Charles Perry
Locke wrote:
> David,
>
> Romans 10:9,10 :
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
> Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from
> the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto
> righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto salvation.
>
> But, as I have stated
before, the right jesus and right god must be
> at the center
of one's faith. I am not just harassing you, Dave, I
>
honestly do believe that the mormons worship false
gods.
>
> Perry
>
>> From: Dave Hansen
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>
To: [email protected]
>>
Subject: [TruthTalk] Belief
>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005
00:16:42 -0700
>>
>> DAVEH: Yeah........Pretty
quiet on TT tonight..
>>
>> Do you believe that
those who believe in Jesus are saved, as I've
>> heard
many Christians proclaim? If belief is inadequate, what else
>> is needed, Perry?
>>
>> Charles Perry
Locke wrote:
>>
>>> Dave, this is great.
Midnight, just me and you on TT, mano y mano,
>>> so to
speak :-)
>>>
>>> I guess I am biased in
that way, because both you and Blaine admit
>>> to
following the christ and jesus of mormonism, so it is my opinion
>>> that you are lost since I believe that they are
false gods. If I
>>> thought that you guys were saved
in spite of the teachings of the
>>> mormon church I
would not be spending so much time exposing the
>>>
false nature of the mormon church to
you.
>>>
>>> But, the bottom line is that
God makes that ultimate decision, not
I.
>>>
>>>
Perry
>>>
>>
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