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Please Dave, read Perry's post of yesterday then,
answer my question. Would you say, in lieu of Perry's 'list' that we (you and I)
believe in a different Jesus? IMO Perry is quite correct in those distinctions
he points out.
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Sent: June 21, 2005 22:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
DAVEH: No, I do not recall saying that. However, I
believe we all are viewing the same Jesus, but have different perspectives on
what we see. The Jesus I believe in the same one found in the Bible
which is the same one you believe as you read about him in the Bible.
That does not mean we both view him the same way. Does that make sense,
Lance?
Lance Muir wrote:
Have you said that their's is a 'different'
Jesus?
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Sent:
June 21, 2005 00:55
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
DAVEH: Logically, the onus is not upon me to
define the Jesus I believe in, but rather it is on the person who suggests
I don't believe in Jesus. FTR....I have not said that the Jesus
Kevin, you Perry or any other TTer believes in is a false Jesus.
Lance Muir wrote:
DaveH says "Kevin, I believe in Jesus." IFF
we are going to engage in a conversation that entails reality, then we
have to continue to build upon that which has been said
previously.According to you THE JESUS TO BE BELIEVED IN IS MOST
FULLY AND ACCURATELY DESCRIBED WITHIN MORMON TEACHING. Is this
so? The Jesus believed in by Kevin, Perry, Lance et al is a false
Jesus. Is this not also so? (unwieldy but, you get my point)What, IYO,
are the eternal consequenses for non-Mormons?
Mr. Moderator:Please grant DaveH the
opportunity of fully answering and, explaining.
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Sent:
June 19, 2005 23:02
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
DAVEH: FTR Kevin, I believe in Jesus.
Therefore can we conclude that you've made the judgment rather than
God?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
He will!
He
Has!
JN 3:18 He that believeth on him is
not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned
already
DAVEH:
I fully understand that, Perry. But I'd feel more comfortable
letting God make that judgment than you.
Charles Perry
Locke wrote:
> David,
>
> Romans 10:9,10 :
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
> Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from
> the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto
> righteousness; and with the mouth
confession is made unto salvation.
>
> But, as I have
stated before, the right jesus and right god must be
> at
the center of one's faith. I am not just harassing you, Dave, I
> honestly do believe that the mormons worship false
gods.
>
> Perry
>
>> From: Dave Hansen
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>
To: [email protected]
>>
Subject: [TruthTalk] Belief
>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005
00:16:42 -0700
>>
>> DAVEH: Yeah........Pretty
quiet on TT tonight..
>>
>> Do you believe that
those who believe in Jesus are saved, as I've
>> heard
many Christians proclaim? If belief is inadequate, what else
>> is needed, Perry?
>>
>> Charles
Perry Locke wrote:
>>
>>> Dave, this is
great. Midnight, just me and you on TT, mano y mano,
>>> so to speak :-)
>>>
>>> I
guess I am biased in that way, because both you and Blaine admit
>>> to following the christ and jesus of mormonism,
so it is my opinion
>>> that you are lost since I
believe that they are false gods. If I
>>> thought
that you guys were saved in spite of the teachings of the
>>> mormon church I would not be spending so much
time exposing the
>>> false nature of the mormon
church to you.
>>>
>>> But, the bottom
line is that God makes that ultimate decision, not
I.
>>>
>>>
Perry
>>>
>>
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