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Lance, in view of our discussion yesterday - would you
say that you and I believe in a different Jesus?
Still waiting ... judyt
Please Dave, read Perry's post of yesterday then,
answer my question. Would you say, in lieu of Perry's 'list' that we (you and
I) believe in a different Jesus? IMO Perry is quite correct in those
distinctions he points out.
DAVEH: No, I do not
recall saying that. However, I believe we all are viewing the same
Jesus, but have different perspectives on what we see. The Jesus I
believe in the same one found in the Bible which is the same one you believe
as you read about him in the Bible. That does not mean we both view
him the same way. Does that make sense, Lance?
Lance Muir
wrote:
Have you said that their's is a 'different'
Jesus?
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DAVEH: Logically, the onus is not upon me to
define the Jesus I believe in, but rather it is on the person who
suggests I don't believe in Jesus. FTR....I have not said that the
Jesus Kevin, you Perry or any other TTer believes in is a false
Jesus.
Lance Muir wrote:
DaveH says "Kevin, I believe in Jesus."
IFF we are going to engage in a conversation that entails reality,
then we have to continue to build upon that which has been said
previously.According to you THE JESUS TO BE BELIEVED IN IS MOST
FULLY AND ACCURATELY DESCRIBED WITHIN MORMON TEACHING. Is this
so? The Jesus believed in by Kevin, Perry, Lance et al is a false
Jesus. Is this not also so? (unwieldy but, you get my point)What, IYO,
are the eternal consequenses for non-Mormons?
Mr. Moderator:Please grant DaveH the
opportunity of fully answering and, explaining.
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DAVEH: FTR Kevin, I believe in
Jesus. Therefore can we conclude that you've made the
judgment rather than God?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
He
will!
He Has!
JN 3:18 He that believeth on him
is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned
already
DAVEH:
I fully understand that, Perry. But I'd feel more comfortable
letting God make that judgment than you.
Charles
Perry Locke wrote:
> David,
>
> Romans
10:9,10 : That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
> Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath
raised him from
> the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with
the heart man believeth unto
> righteousness; and with
the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
>
>
But, as I have stated before, the right jesus and right god must
be
> at the center of one's faith. I am not just
harassing you, Dave, I
> honestly do believe that the
mormons worship false gods.
>
>
Perry
>
>> From: Dave Hansen
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>
To: [email protected]
>>
Subject: [TruthTalk] Belief
>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005
00:16:42 -0700
>>
>> DAVEH: Yeah........Pretty
quiet on TT tonight..
>>
>> Do you believe
that those who believe in Jesus are saved, as I've
>>
heard many Christians proclaim? If belief is inadequate, what
else
>> is needed, Perry?
>>
>>
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
this is great. Midnight, just me and you on TT, mano y mano,
>>> so to speak :-)
>>>
>>>
I guess I am biased in that way, because both you and Blaine
admit
>>> to following the christ and jesus of
mormonism, so it is my opinion
>>> that you are
lost since I believe that they are false gods. If I
>>> thought that you guys were saved in spite of
the teachings of the
>>> mormon church I would not
be spending so much time exposing the
>>> false
nature of the mormon church to
you.
>>>
>>> But, the bottom line is
that God makes that ultimate decision, not
I.
>>>
>>>
Perry
>>>
>>
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