Were you under the misapprehension David, that John though obedience a BAD
thing?


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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: July 06, 2005 10:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the Bible


> John wrote:
> > The works-salvationists on this forum (including
> > our Mormon friends   --   that's right, you
> > [deegan, JT and DM]  and the Mormons only
> > argue about different rules and doctrines while
> > refusing to see that your frame of reference is
> > the same !!)  imply in the argumentation that
> > obedience is the path to maturity when, in point
> > of fact, such is not the case in any other ontological
> > consideration.   If you are nurtured YOU WILL
> > GROW UP no matter what.   Obedience of which
> > you speak   has nothing to do with that process.
>
> First, John, let me set the record straight yet again that I am NOT a
> works-salvationist.
>
> Second, what you argue here is like someone arguing that a person will
grow
> up no matter what, regardless of what they eat.  In regards to a person's
> spiritual state, disobedience is like urging someone to eat Krispy Creme
> Donuts for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, or worse, like urging them to eat
> poison.  Now, surely you must understand that in one case, a person's
growth
> is hindered, and in the other case, the person's growth is stopped and
they
> die!  Think about it.
>
> Obedience is a good thing.  It is what Jesus Christ creates within us, and
> all those who name the name of Christ are called to walk in obedience and
> produce good works.
>
> Ephesians 2:10
> (10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works,
> which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
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