Lance wrote:
> As 'believers, we  'participate' (in our relationship with Him
> and with each other) inadequately and incompletely EVERY
> DAY. This is the reality of the Christian life. Any voice, human
> or otherwise, who would suggest that this is not the case speaks
> against the truth of the gospel.

Lance, with all due respect, in the time I have known you through email here 
on TruthTalk, you consistently judge others using yourself as the standard. 
YOU are not the standard by which we are to judge what is possible or what 
is impossible.

A better yard stick to use would be the Bible.  Yes, I know, everybody 
disagrees about what the Bible says, but that is simply because most people 
do not obey the Bible. Those who obey the Bible hear what it has to say, and 
they do come to agreement.  That does not mean that everyone has identical 
perspectives.  We are not meant to have identical perspectives.  Rather, it 
means that we are in complete agreement, whether it be like Paul and James 
on being justified by faith or justified by works, or whether it be like 
Izzy and me on the subject of holiness.

Now my Bible says that those who are practicing righteousness is righteous 
even as HE (Christ) is righteous (1 John 3:7).  Surely you are not going to 
argue that Jesus Christ himself was inadequate or incomplete, are you?  If 
not, then we have no reason to believe your false gospel that everybody 
inadequately and incompletely are in relationship with Christ and each 
other.

1 John 1:7 says that if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have 
fellowship one with another.  This does not speak about inadequate or 
incomplete fellowship.  This passage speaks about a reality available to all 
those who will believe the gospel.

Col. 2:10 says that we are complete in him.  Why do you say, "we are not 
complete in him, but we all inadquately and incompletely, EVERY DAY, 
participate in our relationship with him"?  Please speak for yourself and 
not me on this issue.  You do not represent me or Christ on this issue.  You 
should say "I" rather than "we," but better yet, learn the truth of the 
Scriptures and then get your mouth lined up with God's Word.  Confess what 
God's Word says rather than what your experience tells you about your past 
life.  Change cannot happen if you are always looking back.  You must look 
forward to Christ, and reach for him, and apprehend him, always reaching 
forward in an adequate and complete manner that continually gets better 
every day.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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