Christopher Arndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While I agree with you that cluttering the subject line is a Bad Thing, I > don't understand, whether you are generally opposed to the idea of tagging > list posts or just via the subject line?
If it requires the user any work, then I'm against any solution. If it is automatic, I'm not opposed to it. :-) > 1a) implicetely categorizing a post/thread in a manner likely to be > useful to everybody, not just the original author. It isn't just useful just to the original author. All messages are indexed by Google on each and every word in its body. This is automatic to MLs hosted by Google... > 2) To allow searching and generating reports on list posts not just with > a special MUA or Google, but to generate a database, in which you can > dig with whichever tool ou want. I use grep here... It finds each and every word anywhere on the message (be it headers or bodies). > Point 1a) also answers your concern about shifting topics in mailing list > threads. Either the thread will be found under the right tag, because enough > people have chosen this tag, or somebody has written a summary, that > contains the necessary keywords. If a thread starts with a wrong tag or shifts subject in the middle of it, as it happens often, then this will break the indexing scheme. I don't believe people will change tags since they don't change the subject. > Of course this depends on the possibility that everybody can tag list posts, > not just the author. This might be difficult to implement in an accessible > manner. Ideally, I envisage that every post contains a footer with several > links like this: > > Tag this post: http://tagging.org/tg-ml/63738/add_tags > Summarize this thread: http://tagging.org/tg-ml/63738/add_summary > etc. They'd be viewable with text MUAs perfectly fine, I believe. And they'll add MIME compliant footers -- so that it doesn't break GPG/PGP signed messages, for example -- as well... > Unfortunately, Google Groups does not support dynamic content in message > footers (I just tested it), so I don't see a method yet to insert some > form of message ID into the URLs. But the tagging service needs some way > to determine which message should be tagged. Another problem is that > message footers are not shown in the Google web interface. What would work is that every message should be passed to this program, it should categorize them -- and index their Message-ID and References -- and then we add an hyperlink on the footer for such a search mechanism. > I guess, one could create a Thunderbird extension to extract the message > ID from the mail headers and provide a toolbar button for tagging, but > then users would have a) to have the right MUA and b) to first install > the extension. I have the right MUA: Emacs + Gnus. ;-) Thunderbird was too far away from what I needed to handle email + news in high volumes and in a portable way. Specially when I need to read mail remotely and don't want to use a webmail. :-) > So, currently I'm out of ideas. Of course, if we had our own mailing > list server, adding a dynamic footer would be no problem... Too much work just to add a footer... A static footer with the address of the message tagger would solve the problem. "Wanna search or tag this message? Go to http://...";. -- Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
