On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
> I recorded all five Leno shows wince Letterman was off and I've
> watched three of them so far, the Monday, Thursday and Friday shows.
> I'd saw the week has lessened my opinion of Leno. And remember, I'm
> the guy who took a lot of crap for defending Leno in alt.fan.letterman
> a decade ago. (SNIP)

That is interesting - but may reflect just how low my view of Mr. Leno
was before this week. My opinion had almost nowhere to go but up.
Before the WGA strike I was at the point where I had an aversive
classically conditioned response every time I saw him. The couple of
shows I saw when he came back "without" writers softened my view of
him personally, and reminded me that when I have seen him interviewed
outside of the Tonight Show on occasion over the years he does not
make my flesh crawl - which then reminded me of how much I used to
like him. I think the hope for his new show is that he is forced out
of the safe structure they build up on the Tonight Show and maybe
tries to be a little more of himself.

His set-up of the "Jaywalking" highlight on Friday really epitomized
what is so creepy about his version of the TS. He started by saying
that people also ask him if those are real people, and how not only
are they real, but he only has to interview about 18 people to get the
usable clips and it takes an hour. Then he said that he has some kind
of game show schtick where brings Jaywalkers who have given
particularly stupid answers into the studio to give even more stupid
answers, and that he was afraid at first that having seen themselves
on TV they would study up to get smart, but no,
surprise-surprise-surprise, if anything they are even stupider on the
in-studio bit.

I have no problem believing this description of how he puts the bits
together. What bothers me about it is that Leno seems either not to
understand (hard to believe) or thinks he can get away with
bullshitting us (easier to believe) the real truth, which is that 40%
of people on the street in Southern California are eager to look
stupid if it means they can be on TV. I am quite sure that once people
at Universal Studios, or Venice Beach (or wherever he tapes those
bits) recognize that they are being interviewed for the JW bit, they
purposely try to give stupid answers that they think will be funny. I
am quite sure that at least half of the video Leno can't use is due to
this being so obvious it would creep out even his most loyal fans
(when he asks "who is buried in Grant's Tomb" how many people say
something like "Grant - oh no, I mean, Lee, I mean, I don't know"; or
"when was the War of 1812?" "1812 - no, 1811, oh wait, I think 1813
would be funnier - can I try it again?"). No doubt when he brings
people in for the in studio bit they spend a lot of time polishing
their stupid act, and contrary to Leno's lame argument to the
contrary, it is not at all surprising that they are stupider when they
come back the second time.

Why does Leno pander in this way? I know we are not supposed to make a
lot of "Dave is better than Leno" posts to this list anymore, but I
really do think this illustrates a difference between him and Dave.
It's not that Dave wouldn't make fun of people, but what Dave would
instinctively be making fun of is the desire of people to be famous.
When Dave used to do more of his "found" comedy or have "normal"
people come on, he would skewer anyone who came across as trying too
hard; his instincts were to go with people who were being themselves
(or, at least, who were more artful in playing something other than
themselves).

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