On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:03 AM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am noticing the clunky editing on Colbert as well. A typical one is they > cut to Jon Batiste who will say something unrelated to what Colbert is > talking about > Ah yes, that’s the Hank Kingsley Factor #HeyNow > Not sent from an iPhone > On Jan 22, 2018, at 6:20 AM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dave always felt strongly that his show should be as “live to tape” as >> possible, though of course that did not count obviously and less obviously >> pre-taped segments. One change when Colbert took over is that he clearly >> does not have that same feeling. I think this is consistent with how he did >> things on the CR, where I am pretty sure they routinely re-did what would >> have been “live to tape” segements, often multiple times, and edited >> together the best bits for the broadcast. Colbert has also, as we have >> discussed here, been more comfortable using musical, interview and comedy >> pieces recorded previously and blended in, and I suspect it is not uncommon >> that he stops tape and re-shoots specific segments. I don’t know if it is >> “sloppy” editing as much as a growing awareness that this kind of editing >> happens routinely that leads to the sometimes jarring discontinuities - >> with the host or bandleader wearing a different tie or suit. >> >> All of that said, while I am not sure it qualifies as actual lying, I >> would rather they cut out the “live to tape” thing, unless they find a way >> to telegraph it more specifically as an homage to Sanders. I don’t like it >> because it strongly implies that this version of the show is shot with more >> direct continuity than Dave’s version, and that is clearly not so. >> >> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 7:31 PM Kevin M. < [email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:02 AM Adam Bowie < [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Because we get few talk shows over here, and for the most part I only >>>> see segments on YouTube, for me, "Live on tape [from Hollywood]" will >>>> always mean The Larry Sanders Show. >>>> >>> >>> Adam, that’s always what I think of when I hear it. Besides, if we are >>> being pedantic about the word “live,” we should also point out the shows >>> are not on “tape” as tape hasn’t been industry standard in years. >>> >>> As for the non-live/edited aspect of the talk shows, it is the frankly >>> sloppy editing that has brought the issue to the forefront. I worked a lot >>> of talk shows back in the day, and I’ve attended several since then, and >>> the only show that strived to air an as-recorded broadcast was Leno’s >>> Tonight Show. But editors and producers used to strive for continuity, and >>> that just isn’t the case anymore. I think it would matter less if the >>> editing resulted in a greater amount of comedy/substance, but I don’t think >>> that has been the case. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Brad Beam <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tune in tomorrow night after your late local news for a new "Jimmy >>>>> Kimmel Live on Tape." >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 10:44, Jon Delfin < [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The deception begins with the daily "Live on tape" announcement. >>>>> Nothing will change. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 20, 2018 8:04 AM, "PGage" < [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have pretty much stopped watching on Fridays. I am not exactly >>>>>> angry, but I have been calling on them to be more transparent about this >>>>>> (I >>>>>> have emailed them a couple of times, no reply). >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t think it’s laziness; it takes a lot of time and energy to do >>>>>> those shows. Colbert wants time with the Fam in NJ, and he wants his >>>>>> staff >>>>>> to do that too. >>>>>> >>>>>> The show is so ultra topical that even a rerun from a month ago would >>>>>> feel dated. So I don’t mind what they are doing, just wish they were more >>>>>> honest about it >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:28 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Have to agree. When Dave was dark on Fridays, the alleged excuse was >>>>>>> that they used the time to tape material outside of the studio. (That it >>>>>>> was more that Dave just couldn't be bothered to work five days is beside >>>>>>> the point ... ) Colbert doing this just strikes me a lazy. Of course, >>>>>>> Myers >>>>>>> does it, too, but at least Late Night admits the whole show is a rerun. >>>>>>> I'll be interested to see if they do five new shows a week during >>>>>>> sweeps or >>>>>>> keep this up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --Dave Sikula >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 9:52:41 PM UTC-8, David Bruggeman >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is the second week in a row that The Late Show has repeated an >>>>>>>> interview on a Friday show. Last week it was a second go for Fire and >>>>>>>> Fury >>>>>>>> author Michael Wolff, who had appeared earlier that week. Tonight it's >>>>>>>> comedian and Crashing star Pete Holmes, a repeat from January 10. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The annoyance for me comes from the show making no indication that >>>>>>>> the interview had aired before. And yes, the show has reaired >>>>>>>> interview >>>>>>>> footage before, but it has typically called it out and in some cases >>>>>>>> included material that wasn't aired the first time around. These last >>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>> instances had no new material, AFAIK. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. 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