I am noticing the clunky editing on Colbert as well. A typical one is they cut to Jon Batiste who will say something unrelated to what Colbert is talking about Not sent from an iPhone
On Jan 22, 2018, 6:20 AM, at 6:20 AM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >Dave always felt strongly that his show should be as “live to tape” as >possible, though of course that did not count obviously and less >obviously >pre-taped segments. One change when Colbert took over is that he >clearly >does not have that same feeling. I think this is consistent with how he >did >things on the CR, where I am pretty sure they routinely re-did what >would >have been “live to tape” segements, often multiple times, and edited >together the best bits for the broadcast. Colbert has also, as we have >discussed here, been more comfortable using musical, interview and >comedy >pieces recorded previously and blended in, and I suspect it is not >uncommon >that he stops tape and re-shoots specific segments. I don’t know if it >is >“sloppy” editing as much as a growing awareness that this kind of >editing >happens routinely that leads to the sometimes jarring discontinuities - >with the host or bandleader wearing a different tie or suit. > >All of that said, while I am not sure it qualifies as actual lying, I >would >rather they cut out the “live to tape” thing, unless they find a way to >telegraph it more specifically as an homage to Sanders. I don’t like it >because it strongly implies that this version of the show is shot with >more >direct continuity than Dave’s version, and that is clearly not so. > >On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 7:31 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:02 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> >wrote: >> >>> Because we get few talk shows over here, and for the most part I >only see >>> segments on YouTube, for me, "Live on tape [from Hollywood]" will >always >>> mean The Larry Sanders Show. >>> >> >> Adam, that’s always what I think of when I hear it. Besides, if we >are >> being pedantic about the word “live,” we should also point out the >shows >> are not on “tape” as tape hasn’t been industry standard in years. >> >> As for the non-live/edited aspect of the talk shows, it is the >frankly >> sloppy editing that has brought the issue to the forefront. I worked >a lot >> of talk shows back in the day, and I’ve attended several since then, >and >> the only show that strived to air an as-recorded broadcast was Leno’s >> Tonight Show. But editors and producers used to strive for >continuity, and >> that just isn’t the case anymore. I think it would matter less if the >> editing resulted in a greater amount of comedy/substance, but I don’t >think >> that has been the case. >> >> >> >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Brad Beam <[email protected]> >wrote: >>> >>>> Tune in tomorrow night after your late local news for a new "Jimmy >>>> Kimmel Live on Tape." >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 10:44, Jon Delfin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The deception begins with the daily "Live on tape" announcement. >Nothing >>>> will change. >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2018 8:04 AM, "PGage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have pretty much stopped watching on Fridays. I am not exactly >angry, >>>>> but I have been calling on them to be more transparent about this >(I have >>>>> emailed them a couple of times, no reply). >>>>> >>>>> I don’t think it’s laziness; it takes a lot of time and energy to >do >>>>> those shows. Colbert wants time with the Fam in NJ, and he wants >his staff >>>>> to do that too. >>>>> >>>>> The show is so ultra topical that even a rerun from a month ago >would >>>>> feel dated. So I don’t mind what they are doing, just wish they >were more >>>>> honest about it >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:28 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Have to agree. When Dave was dark on Fridays, the alleged excuse >was >>>>>> that they used the time to tape material outside of the studio. >(That it >>>>>> was more that Dave just couldn't be bothered to work five days is >beside >>>>>> the point ... ) Colbert doing this just strikes me a lazy. Of >course, Myers >>>>>> does it, too, but at least Late Night admits the whole show is a >rerun. >>>>>> I'll be interested to see if they do five new shows a week during >sweeps or >>>>>> keep this up. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --Dave Sikula >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 9:52:41 PM UTC-8, David Bruggeman >wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the second week in a row that The Late Show has repeated >an >>>>>>> interview on a Friday show. Last week it was a second go for >Fire and Fury >>>>>>> author Michael Wolff, who had appeared earlier that week. >Tonight it's >>>>>>> comedian and Crashing star Pete Holmes, a repeat from January >10. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The annoyance for me comes from the show making no indication >that >>>>>>> the interview had aired before. And yes, the show has reaired >interview >>>>>>> footage before, but it has typically called it out and in some >cases >>>>>>> included material that wasn't aired the first time around. >These last two >>>>>>> instances had no new material, AFAIK. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups >>> "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> Kevin M. 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