Dave always felt strongly that his show should be as “live to tape” as possible, though of course that did not count obviously and less obviously pre-taped segments. One change when Colbert took over is that he clearly does not have that same feeling. I think this is consistent with how he did things on the CR, where I am pretty sure they routinely re-did what would have been “live to tape” segements, often multiple times, and edited together the best bits for the broadcast. Colbert has also, as we have discussed here, been more comfortable using musical, interview and comedy pieces recorded previously and blended in, and I suspect it is not uncommon that he stops tape and re-shoots specific segments. I don’t know if it is “sloppy” editing as much as a growing awareness that this kind of editing happens routinely that leads to the sometimes jarring discontinuities - with the host or bandleader wearing a different tie or suit.
All of that said, while I am not sure it qualifies as actual lying, I would rather they cut out the “live to tape” thing, unless they find a way to telegraph it more specifically as an homage to Sanders. I don’t like it because it strongly implies that this version of the show is shot with more direct continuity than Dave’s version, and that is clearly not so. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 7:31 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:02 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Because we get few talk shows over here, and for the most part I only see >> segments on YouTube, for me, "Live on tape [from Hollywood]" will always >> mean The Larry Sanders Show. >> > > Adam, that’s always what I think of when I hear it. Besides, if we are > being pedantic about the word “live,” we should also point out the shows > are not on “tape” as tape hasn’t been industry standard in years. > > As for the non-live/edited aspect of the talk shows, it is the frankly > sloppy editing that has brought the issue to the forefront. I worked a lot > of talk shows back in the day, and I’ve attended several since then, and > the only show that strived to air an as-recorded broadcast was Leno’s > Tonight Show. But editors and producers used to strive for continuity, and > that just isn’t the case anymore. I think it would matter less if the > editing resulted in a greater amount of comedy/substance, but I don’t think > that has been the case. > > > >> >> Adam >> >> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Brad Beam <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Tune in tomorrow night after your late local news for a new "Jimmy >>> Kimmel Live on Tape." >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 10:44, Jon Delfin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The deception begins with the daily "Live on tape" announcement. Nothing >>> will change. >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2018 8:04 AM, "PGage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have pretty much stopped watching on Fridays. I am not exactly angry, >>>> but I have been calling on them to be more transparent about this (I have >>>> emailed them a couple of times, no reply). >>>> >>>> I don’t think it’s laziness; it takes a lot of time and energy to do >>>> those shows. Colbert wants time with the Fam in NJ, and he wants his staff >>>> to do that too. >>>> >>>> The show is so ultra topical that even a rerun from a month ago would >>>> feel dated. So I don’t mind what they are doing, just wish they were more >>>> honest about it >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:28 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have to agree. When Dave was dark on Fridays, the alleged excuse was >>>>> that they used the time to tape material outside of the studio. (That it >>>>> was more that Dave just couldn't be bothered to work five days is beside >>>>> the point ... ) Colbert doing this just strikes me a lazy. Of course, >>>>> Myers >>>>> does it, too, but at least Late Night admits the whole show is a rerun. >>>>> I'll be interested to see if they do five new shows a week during sweeps >>>>> or >>>>> keep this up. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --Dave Sikula >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 9:52:41 PM UTC-8, David Bruggeman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the second week in a row that The Late Show has repeated an >>>>>> interview on a Friday show. Last week it was a second go for Fire and >>>>>> Fury >>>>>> author Michael Wolff, who had appeared earlier that week. Tonight it's >>>>>> comedian and Crashing star Pete Holmes, a repeat from January 10. >>>>>> >>>>>> The annoyance for me comes from the show making no indication that >>>>>> the interview had aired before. And yes, the show has reaired interview >>>>>> footage before, but it has typically called it out and in some cases >>>>>> included material that wasn't aired the first time around. These last >>>>>> two >>>>>> instances had no new material, AFAIK. >>>>>> >>>>>> David >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Kevin M. 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