ironically, my example urls are shortened here ;)

On Jul 8, 12:20 pm, sull <sullele...@gmail.com> wrote:
> this is a topic of interest to me for a long while.
> been meaning to start a thread.
>
> i'm often bothered by the automatic shortening of urls when in fact
> the url does not need to be shortened.  in these cases, i of course do
> not want to hide the real url by using a forced 3rd party service like
> bit.ly.
> i have use cases where all that is posted is a url.  and the url
> includes a long detailed description of the link.  this, in my
> opinion, is smart as the only object to maintain is the url itself
> which provides a hyperlink and a short message combined.  sometimes,
> these use cases are using natural language vanity urls to form short
> sentences.
>
> ie.http://john.tot.al.ly/wiped-out-on-this-huge-wave-in-hawaii-at-the-Su...
>
> the other annoying thing that is related to the twitter UI is how long
> urls are cut-off//trimmed even if they dont need to be.  the above
> example would be destroyed because it would result in something
> like:
>
> http://john.tot.al.ly/wip....
>
> actually, i'm not certain if that is still the case as it seems to me
> that every url is shortened with bit.ly now.  i grok the value in
> tracking urls and bit.ly may be bought by twitter at some point and
> this notion of url tracking will be fully integrated.... but the
> debate about url shortners in general.... how they can break the
> natural web, are vulnerable to massive broken links and simply thr
> cryptic format itself that hides the true location.... are all to be
> considered and continued to be debated.
>
> at the very least, 3rd party developers should get an override
> toggle.
> that is something i think we all need to start demanding.
>
> and yes, an official doc explaining the current and future
> impementations of url shortening on twitter is definitely needed now.
>
> http://plea.se/twitter-dont-shorten-this-url-with-bitly-since-it-does...
>
> http://twitter.com/sull/status/2534470050
>
> @sull
>
> On Jul 8, 4:50 am, Swaroop <rh.swar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "However, if you paste in a link that is less than 30 characters,
> > we'll post it in its entirety.  If it's longer than 30 characters,
> > we'll convert it to a shorter URL."
>
> > Source:http://help.twitter.com/portal

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