Agreed.


On Mar 13, 2011, at 4:58, Scott Wilcox <[email protected]> wrote:

> Providing you don't participate in any spamming, I would think your 
> application is perfectly safe.
> 
> On 13 Mar 2011, at 11:51, Dustin Lennon wrote:
> 
>> I guess what I would like to know is since I'm a hobbyist, am I going to get 
>> my token revoked just because I write a client that is just for my use to 
>> better my skills in learning a specific programming language and share with 
>> others things I've learned.
>> 
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>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Raffi
>> 
>> So if I'm reading what you wrote correctly, simple clients that just
>> display a timeline, post etc are thinking too small and there is no
>> business there, something I can agree with.
>> 
>> However many of us have, what I'd call a value added client.  Sure we
>> have the basics of a client, but we have what I'd like to think are
>> added value services such as tweet scheduling, augmented reality of
>> tweeters around you, user streams, draft management, and so much more.
>> Are we to think that these are actually going to be fine for the time
>> being, so long as obviously we comply with the ToS.
>> 
>> What you guys seem to be saying though is don't build clients because
>> it won't make money, but some people seem to fail to grasp some of us
>> develop apps like this because we enjoy it... it's a hobby and a
>> passion and that doesn't always involve tons of profit. Services such
>> as Seesmic started out in the simple Client business, remember Twhirl,
>> etc. Sure they grew into something enterprise, but most of us start
>> out at the bottom and with the basics.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2:39 am, Raffi Krikorian <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > in reading your blog post, i think you're misunderstanding what
>> > @*rsarver*wrote.
>> >
>> > the API is open -- i personally love seeing all the innovation around
>> > getting content into twitter (/1/status/update).  there is a cafe in france
>> > who's oven tweets whenever its done baking.  that uses the platform to get
>> > content in there.  there was a NYU project that enabled your plants to 
>> > tweet
>> > when they needed water.  that uses the platform to get content into 
>> > twitter.
>> >   then there are people who match tweets to context.  seeing twitter in
>> > action with a television show, or a newspaper article, or a conference, or 
>> > a
>> > band -- that's how people really understand and get twitter.  they see it
>> > through the lens of what's happening in the world.
>> >
>> > what @*rsarver* said, effectively, was building a business around
>> > *simply*rendering
>> > /1/statuses/home_timeline was probably-not-the-best-thing-to-do.  please go
>> > still innovate.  just don't bet money on simply making an API call to
>> > grabbing a user's home_timeline and rendering it.  that's thinking too
>> > small, and @*rsarver* is telling you that.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Shannon Whitley
>> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>> >
>> > > I was hoping that Ryan was just a few weeks early for his April Fools'
>> > > post.
>> >
>> > > "Don't build clients?"  It sounds like a bad joke.
>> >
>> > > I wrote a letter to Ryan on my blog in response to this post:
>> >
>> > >http://www.voiceoftech.com/swhitley/index.php/2011/03/a-letter-to-rya...
>> >
>> > > I know you guys can't be serious about this.  Stage a mutiny if you
>> > > have to, but don't let this boneheaded decision stand.
>> >
>> > --
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