As the OP, I like the idea of a wiki, provided it can either use straight HTML, 
use MediaWiki markup (which is slightly different), or use a WYSIWIG like 
sites.google.com or pbwiki uses.  I find that only a few of these have gained 
sufficient traction that most gearheads know how to use them, the other 
competitors are just more headaches.

Make it searchable.  Sure.  I assume that any web pages are searchable.  You 
have to actively make something not searchable AFAIK.

Useful examples - hopefully.  Make sense to everyone - probably not as 
possible.  But anything that doesn't make sense, you'd be able to markup

I didn't address docs, but sure why not.

Collaborate - that's the main point of my message really.  To find a way to 
collaborate that is more immediate, and more used that PickWiki which seems 
very cob-webby to me.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Thompson <[email protected]>
To: U2 Users List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 8:46 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration


So, I thought what the original poster was getting at was:
1) Create a documentation/wiki/example site
) Make it searchable
) Have useful examples that make sense to everyone
) Also post the vendor/var docs
) Collaborate on ideas (like we do here)
Maybe you guys are talking about something else...
Github, svn, cvs, PRC and all those are great tools, but, they probably
ren't going to create the "Wikipedia" of the MV world.
The above can be done, but, it needs to become a living/breathing thing
hat gets updated a lot, otherwise, folks won't use it.  Hence the
hallenge- making it a living/breathing thing.
I know this kind of thing has been tried, and is being tried... but there
robably isn't enough flag waving and marketing to keep it going.
Or people create something, and try to make it subscription based, which in
his day and time is never going to work with something like the above.
Some of the things I know about are:
http://www.nuwiki.com/cgi-bin/nuwiki.cgi?home&project=nuwiki
ttp://www.keyally.com/prdb/universe/basic_tree_all.html
ttp://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl
Anyway, I'd like to help with something like that.  I'm just not sure at my
tage in life, that I have the time to spearhead it and become the chief
Architect" of something like that.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
 Personally I respond more immediately when something comes at me.
 Would it not be possible to set up a mailing list for any changes to
 Incubator code?  So all users on that list get emailed when a change is
 made?
 I think this would propel both use of the code, and <s>misuse</s>
 enhancement.



 -----Original Message-----
 From: Brian Leach <[email protected]>
 To: U2 Users List <[email protected]>
 Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 2:55 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration


 Mecki
 Thats why the board launched the Incubator project early this year. The
 intent
 s for this to become a repository of useful working examples of using the
 echnology. But I don't have the time to write those all myself and we have
 been
 rying to pursuade the community to get involved.
 Brian
 ent from my ASUS Eee Pad
 Mecki Foerthmann <[email protected]> wrote:
 >I think a major problem is the lack of training/documentation.
 Great that there are all these new possibilities, but if you have to
 figure everything out yourself it becomes very difficult to keep up with
 the technology.
 A lot of VARs (especially ours) are no help if you get the feeling they
 know even less then you do.
 It is very frustrating if the business asks, 'can we do that?' and you
 can only answer, 'yes, I know it's possible but I don't know how to make
 it work.'
 And how am I to show the young guys all the flash things I have seen in
 demos or heard about here if I can't get them to work myself?

 On 17/11/2011 20:55, David Jordan wrote:
 > The U2UG board has been discussing with Rocket how to encourage
 excitement
 hat U2 is not legacy but is a technology leader.  I was at a presentation
 of a
 2 VAR and they demonstrated product that would be indistinguishable from
 any
 ther player in open systems, Service architecture, interoperability, web
 ntefaces, etc.  How do we get this across to the market.
 >
 > With collaboration, we need to first excite.   How do we excite people
 in U2
 echnology.   Is it looking at a major enhancement of the BASIC programming
 anguage or a new one within U2.  What other things do we look at.
 >
 > Currently young programmers are excited by web technology's, mobile
 apps, the
 exy stuff.  They are not interested in the backend, whether Oracle RDBMS,
 SQL
 erver or U2.  This is a problem across the industry.
 >
 > The board of the user group are interested in areas to look at and how to
 reate infrastructure to make this happen.   If we can reignite excitement
 in
 he product and create a place for collaboration where that excitement can
 be
 ut to good use then I believe we can achieve success.  However our success
 epends on a group of people not a few individuals.   If this is to occur,
 it is
 ime for people to become involved in shaping a future.
 >
 > Regards
 > David Jordan
 > VP U2UG
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