If it's just another PickWiki that's not a step forward in my opinion. We could just post code there.
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Romanow <[email protected]> To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 10:34 am Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration I wonder if everyone should host where they feel comfortable. The ommon place we congregate should just have pointers out. The main point I was making is _any_ wiki is not the right place to hare _the_ code. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote: Let's say you load a piece of code that does a great XML parsing, but I want o watch that code to get the next update from say... some other guy changing hat code and republishing it right in the same spot. That's a subscription to a page change. But it's not *my* code, I didn't hange it or load it. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel McGrath <[email protected]> To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 9:53 am Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration 'GitHub can notify you when people interact with your code' You have account settings to turn on/off exactly what you get notified about. Does that meet your requirements? -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:42 AM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration I will only be involved if there is a way to subscribe to changes, so they ome t me, instead of me needing to go to them. -----Original Message----- rom: Daniel McGrath <[email protected]> o: U2 Users List <[email protected]> ent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 9:39 am ubject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration will personally pay for a business bronze github subscription to help set his . e need a small handful of people who are willing to work with setting this up operly as well as people who already have tools worthy of being shared to mail hose people either permission to them in the repository. teve & Will, would you be willing to be involved? Anyone who is can email me @ [email protected] and I will set it up this weekend then email out the formation to get this started. nce people are committed we can work out appropriate licensing info, etc. egards, n ----Original Message----- om: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Behalf Of Steve Romanow nt: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:16 AM : U2 Users List bject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration n order to realize this vision, does every solution have to be implemented in CK? f the goal is to "make our development tasks more efficient" it is making sure e labor that one of us puts in is not reproduced by another, i.e. Pick syntax les for various tools. he "collaboration point" whether it is pickwiki or another, does not have to st the code, but pointers to the places where the resource can be maintained operly. n example is the MAKEXML program on the wiki. I have used that many times and eriously appreciate ECL and KRJ for making it available. it perfect, not really, every time I use it, I get the docstring twice. The ki is not the way to communicate that it needs a patch. I did (which I should) fix my copy, who do I communicate it to? We also need let people know under what license we post the code under. Can I put MAKEXML on my github and patch it, giving attribution to ECL and KRJ? On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote: As the OP, I like the idea of a wiki, provided it can either use straight ML, se MediaWiki markup (which is slightly different), or use a WYSIWIG like tes.google.com or pbwiki uses. I find that only a few of these have gained fficient traction that most gearheads know how to use them, the other mpetitors are just more headaches. Make it searchable. Sure. I assume that any web pages are searchable. You ve to actively make something not searchable AFAIK. Useful examples - hopefully. Make sense to everyone - probably not as ossible. But anything that doesn't make sense, you'd be able to markup I didn't address docs, but sure why not. Collaborate - that's the main point of my message really. To find a way to llaborate that is more immediate, and more used that PickWiki which seems very b-webby to me. -----Original Message----- From: John Thompson <[email protected]> To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 8:46 am Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration So, I thought what the original poster was getting at was: 1) Create a documentation/wiki/example site ) Make it searchable ) Have useful examples that make sense to everyone ) Also post the vendor/var docs ) Collaborate on ideas (like we do here) Maybe you guys are talking about omething else... Github, svn, cvs, PRC and all those are great tools, but, they probably ren't oing to create the "Wikipedia" of the MV world. The above can be done, but, it needs to become a living/breathing thing hat ets updated a lot, otherwise, folks won't use it. Hence the hallenge- making it a living/breathing thing. I know this kind of thing has been tried, and is being tried... but there obably isn't enough flag waving and marketing to keep it going. Or people create something, and try to make it subscription based, which in is day and time is never going to work with something like the bove. Some of the things I know about are: http://www.nuwiki.com/cgi-bin/nuwiki.cgi?home&project=nuwiki ttp://www.keyally.com/prdb/universe/basic_tree_all.html ttp://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl Anyway, I'd like to help with something like that. I'm just not sure at my age in life, that I have the time to spearhead it and become the chief rchitect" of something like that. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote: Personally I respond more immediately when something comes at me. Would it not be possible to set up a mailing list for any changes to Incubator code? So all users on that list get emailed when a change is made? I think this would propel both use of the code, and <s>misuse</s> enhancement. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Leach <[email protected]> To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration Mecki Thats why the board launched the Incubator project early this year. The intent s for this to become a repository of useful working examples of using the echnology. But I don't have the time to write those all myself and we have been rying to pursuade the community to get involved. Brian ent from my ASUS Eee Pad Mecki Foerthmann <[email protected]> wrote: >I think a major problem is the lack of training/documentation. Great that there are all these new possibilities, but if you have to figure everything out yourself it becomes very difficult to keep up with the technology. A lot of VARs (especially ours) are no help if you get the feeling they know even less then you do. It is very frustrating if the business asks, 'can we do that?' and you can only answer, 'yes, I know it's possible but I don't know how to make it work.' And how am I to show the young guys all the flash things I have seen in demos or heard about here if I can't get them to work myself? On 17/11/2011 20:55, David Jordan wrote: > The U2UG board has been discussing with Rocket how to encourage excitement hat U2 is not legacy but is a technology leader. I was at a presentation of a 2 VAR and they demonstrated product that would be indistinguishable from any ther player in open systems, Service architecture, interoperability, web ntefaces, etc. How do we get this across to the market. > > With collaboration, we need to first excite. How do we excite people in U2 echnology. Is it looking at a major enhancement of the BASIC programming anguage or a new one within U2. What other things do we look at. > > Currently young programmers are excited by web technology's, mobile apps, the exy stuff. They are not interested in the backend, whether Oracle RDBMS, SQL erver or U2. This is a problem across the industry. > > The board of the user group are interested in areas to look at and how to reate infrastructure to make this happen. If we can reignite excitement in he product and create a place for collaboration where that excitement can be ut to good use then I believe we can achieve success. However our success epends on a group of people not a few individuals. 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