I haven't tried using the ubnt speed test in years, but I always considered it to be pretty much worthless. Perhaps it's better than it used to be, I don't know.
I think 10Mbps is probably pushing it a bit. With clean channels and 20mhz channels, I wouldn't think twice about selling 10 meg service on UBNT M gear, but on 10mhz channels everything has to be almost perfect to get that kind of speeds or a few heavy users with less than perfect connections can kill it... and around here, 2.4ghz is just too noisy these days. I wouldn't do that high of speeds on 2.4ghz around here, but given the right conditions, it's certainly possible. ________________________________ From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of ty...@wigi.us [ty...@wigi.us] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 11:20 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp Im no expert on the matter so probably shouldnt chime in............But, Ive never gone off of what a ubnt speed test shows, always considered not very accurate. Ive put cheaper mikrotiks at my problem childs house (customers who complain) before and tested connections that way though cause mikrotiks use iperf which in my experience is more accurate. That being said I personally like to go to the customers house having the problem and take their que out to see what kind of speed they are capable of not metered. Also as stated earlier 95% of the time when a whole AP isnt performing up to par doing an airview and picking a cleaner channel or swapping channels has resolved most of our issues. Especially on 2.4 I wish all of our stuff was 5.8 not half the problems with interference or performance. --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> Date: 1/5/17 12:03 pm To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Ok - I appreciate your opinion. I did provide my bandwidth graphs - they are no where near 40-50 meg - although I am using 10 mhz channels, so i am assuming I could expect 25 meg or so. In theory, no one is goin to be maxxing out their connection. They may have 10 meg available to them but they're going to be using 4 meg. Sometimes 6 if they're streaming more than one tv. Lets say 6 of the 14 are streaming - that is 24 meg - and the usage graph does not show they're getting there. Let me ask this in a different way. During "peak" times - lets say 9 pm at night - should the ubnt speed test to the customer in duplex mode be more or less accurate? Thanks :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Kerns<mailto:t...@cv-access.com> To: Ubiquiti Users Group<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp In my opinion, anyone that is selling 10 meg packages on UBNT AP’s (except 5 gig AC’s) is pushing it. In a point to point I can get 100 meg between the 2 radios. In a Multipoint environment, the best you will see is 40-50 megs aggregate (using 20 meg channels) for the AP. So how many 10 meg customers can you put on it? and if the ones on there are streaming video, and HD Net flick @ 6 megs. I just love the WISP selling 40 megs to customers using UBNT gear and then expect to get 10-20 clients on it. Also, remember the Rocket M’s have 100 meg Ethernet.... and it won’t pass more than 100 megs. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 8:17 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp will play with 5.6.9 later today - anyone else able to comment on this? back to the initial question - am i trying too hard with 10 meg packages on 2.4 rockets with these numbers? should the radios be able to do that? do i need to go post in ubnt forums? :) maybe i will.... lol ----- Original Message ----- From: RickG To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp Yes and the time frame matches the 5.6.x FW suspicion. It comes & goes and so far I have not been able to pinpoint it. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Ken Patrick <patr...@my9ja.com> wrote: Jay, We get these complaints from customers and I have always ignored it as long as everything looks fine from our end. But this has increased significantly since the Virus and 5.6.x firmware and I think we need to critically look at it and not dismiss it. There is no way a ton of customers can be hallucinating at the same time The complaints are usually in the form of its slow or the internet goes off and on especially if you are on the DFS band. Is anyone else experiencing this kinds of complaints ?? Regards On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest package today and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks" we suspect he'll visit his parents more :) base package is 3 meg ----- Original Message ----- From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets. 10 mhz channels. some are sectors, some are omnis. Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for t-mobile??!!) I guess that makes sense, no one else has t-mobile down here.... - so here are the current stats : airmax quality - 83% airmax capacity - 80% here is the stations list and their signals - [cid:586e7d6056094] Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3 That'll change soon - maybe end of January. I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14 users on it airmax quality is 75% airmax capacity is 70% also running 6.0 stations are 5.6.3 [cid:586e7d606bfe7]\ I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points. In some cases folks are buying more than that. Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests. I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people disconnecting - "i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable" here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the bbb - "If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would STRONGLY suggest it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that the incredibly poor service and frequent downtime is simply out of their hand. They offer a "completely unlimited package" for xxxxx in which they CLAIM "as much connectivity as your radio allows". After compiling data from around 100+ bandwidth connections tests over the course of 6 months, with the average speed being around 7Mbits (896 kilobytes). The pricing is not even close to reflecting the service, the cap on the xxxxxx package is 10Mbits, so I am not even reaching the average on that. I can only say that the highest tier package is nothing short of a scam. Whenever I called to complain about this outrageous service, I was told that it was too bad, and that nothing will be done. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx is a conman, relying on shady business tactics to further his greed." btw - i can't recall any downtime within the last year and, well, i just love human beings. i am wondering - - am i asking too much out of these access points? usage graphed - access point 1 - [cid:586e7d6077a35] access point #2 [cid:586e7d6083aaf] btw - i should add the kid who filed the complaint lives in his parents barn (yes, i said barn) and has his own connection separate from his parents. question - am i asking too much of these access points? yes - i'm waiting on the rocket 2ac prism - - and these are our two busiest 2.4 rockets - - but i am also getting complaints on other parts of our network. ok - thanks in advance. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- -RickG KyWiFi ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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