Newer firmware do lose some of the edge frequencies on certain devices, after 
updating. I think it was just on Powerbeams of a certain hardware revision. 
Newer models all work at the edge bands if I recall. I think you have to 
activate the UNII rules for that to happen though, but I could be wrong. For 
example, some of the M5 firmwares do not allow 5840, but still allow 5835. 
Those same models do not allow 5735 but do allow 5840. I am not sure what the 
behavior of the device is when you upgrade to those firmwares if it sits on the 
edge band at the time of the update and is in AP mode, as we only use them for 
CPEs. We ended up moving all of our APs off of those edge bands after getting a 
large batch of CPEs that couldn't 'see' the APs. 


From: "Jeremy Smith" <[email protected]> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:59:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] changing channels on me? 

No. I have never seen a firmware update switch an AP into 'auto' mode. If you 
are not using DFS then I have no idea what would cause that. 


From: "Jan-OOLLC" <[email protected]> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:47:32 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] changing channels on me? 



I don't use any channels with a (DFS) after it. 37 shows on an AP but does not 
seem to work with a STA. I typically use 147, 156 and 164 and do not use auto 
mode (never) for my APs. I'm noticing every once in a while APs set to channels 
I would not have put them on or they're in auto-mode and causing trouble. Is 
this caused by firmware updates or a known firmware number? yes, no, which one? 


Jan V 

On 07/26/2017 04:36 PM, Jeremy Smith wrote: 



In my experience with UBNT gear, if you are using a DFS channel and you have 
not set a channel list, it will jump to a random channel upon detection. This 
can cause a lot of issues with colocated equipment. I have also found that when 
you are setting three DFS channels in your list; if it jumps through all three 
and gets a detection on all of them, it will still jump to a random channel. 
This is it's alternative to just shutting off for an hour. We now put all DFS 
APs with a channel list but make sure that the last freq in the channel is a 
non-DFS channel (whichever one would cause the least amount of disruption to 
colocated devices). Then, we monitor the frequency with SNMP so that we get a 
notification if it changes channels. 


From: "Josh Luthman" [ mailto:[email protected] | 
<[email protected]> ] 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" [ mailto:[email protected] | 
<[email protected]> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 3:43:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] changing channels on me? 

A STA by default will scan all frequencies if that's what you're asking. All 
frequencies available to it. 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Tyson < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] 
] > wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

i answered to quick earlier. i hadn't read back far enough to understand your 
problem. I'm actually still confused some what your problem is. A ss of your 
wireless tab of a radio that your talking about would help. So your saying that 
on a power beam m5 it's set to an auto channel or a channel in the wrong range 
you normally use after a firmware update to 6.04. Is that right? That doesn't 
make a lot of sense unless the pbe m5 is the AP as the AP dictates the channel. 
that's where I'm confused the most. 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 

-------- Original message -------- 
From: Jan Van Kort < [ mailto:[email protected] | 
[email protected] ] > 
Date: 7/26/17 3:36 PM (GMT-06:00) 
To: [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] changing channels on me? 



using pbe-m5-400, 6.04 at present, most of the m5 gear are pbe. Am wondering if 
the update to 6.04 put any of them into auto channel mode? 

On 07/26/2017 12:58 PM, Tyson wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

pretty sure Josh is right on. on the stations that don't have the channels that 
the newer ones have update the firmware. can't remember what version is the 
oldest that accepts it, but 5.6.2 kind of rings a bell. we have 6.0.4 and I 
know that works. to add more channels need to activate UNII rules under the 
system tab on all our m5 gear so that doesn't happen. Nanostation m5s throw me 
off the most since they do some eds channels but not all so it's easier to get 
lucky and work out of the box and forget on them. 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 

-------- Original message -------- 
From: Josh Luthman [ mailto:[email protected] | 
<[email protected]> ] 
Date: 7/26/17 3:08 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group [ mailto:[email protected] | <[email protected]> 
] 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] changing channels on me? 

Are you saying the station's frequency is only doing the upper channels? 
Depending on which m5 radio it is, you might not have access to 5.1 or 5.4 
(pre/post an FCC key...) 


Josh Luthman 
Office: [ tel:%28937%29%20552-2340 | 937-552-2340 ] 
Direct: [ tel:%28937%29%20552-2343 | 937-552-2343 ] 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Jan Van Kort < [ 
mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN



channel 37 does not have a (DFS) next to it in the list 

On 07/26/2017 11:55 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

DFS channels it will have to vacate, yes. 

I suggest setting multiple frequencies on the AP so it cycles through them. 


Josh Luthman 
Office: [ tel:%28937%29%20552-2340 | 937-552-2340 ] 
Direct: [ tel:%28937%29%20552-2343 | 937-552-2343 ] 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Jan Van Kort < [ 
mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN
two issues: I've got some m5 gear that seem able to change channels 
after install on their own. I've found a couple that were in auto mode 
(never allowed here) and a few more that were in not normal channel 
selections. Does this happen as a result of firmware updates? 

I've noticed on the newer radios they have a wider range of channel 
selections, but this seems weird as another new one out of same parts 
order pile won't have the same range. I'll set the access point for 
channel 37 and go over to the receive station and it won't see it. 
Cannot connect them, the station will only go to 147. 

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