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> On May 31, 2018, at 10:25, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > > This dude WISPs > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > >> On Thu, May 31, 2018, 11:23 AM J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB >> able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >> >> $10000*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive >> lease). >> >> 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, but >> not 'juicy'. :) >> >> 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month >> (per sector). Now we're talking. >> >> We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can >> beat the interference from CPS Energy. >> >> Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >> >> Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. $199 >> seems reasonable if no other service is available. >> Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive ARPU >> up). >> >> Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector >> with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >> Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >> And the beat goes on. >> >> $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make that >> deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >> >> But that's just me. :) >> >> YMMV. >> >> JP >> >> On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote >> > CAMBIUM: >> > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor $600 = >> > TOTAL: $10000 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 customers @ >> > $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >> > >> > UBNT: >> > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor >> > $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >> > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >> > >> > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS subs >> > is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) >> > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come talk >>> > about cost. :) >>> > >>> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 clients. >>> > >>> > JP >>> > >>> > On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote >>> > >>> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman >>> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>> > > >>>> > > Josh Luthman >>>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > > Suite 1337 >>>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart >>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>>> > > foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of >>>>> > > hill which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would >>>>> > > be hard press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any >>>>> > > frequency, it is Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >>>>> > > will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>>>> > > customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. >>>>> > > That is enough time to recover investment and make something. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not >>>>> > > even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector >>>>> > > shielding which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial >>>>> > > leases. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market >>>>> > > where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many >>>>> > > spots. Hell, we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart >>>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work >>>>>> > > in foliage areas. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions >>>>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>>>>>> > > experience input. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>>>>>> > > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>>>>>> > > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>>>>>> > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one >>>>>>> > > mile away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees >>>>>>> > > about 80 to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Thank you in advance for your reply. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Ralf >>>>>>> > > Gulf Wireless Inc. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>>> > > [email protected] >>>>>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> > > [email protected] >>>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > > [email protected] >>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > >>> > > -RickG >>> > >>> > Joe Portman >>> > Alamo Broadband Inc. >>> > www.alamobroadband.com >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> > >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > -RickG >> >> >> Joe Portman >> Alamo Broadband Inc. >> www.alamobroadband.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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