Slower growing. That's your choice :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, May 31, 2018, 2:05 PM RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB >> able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >> >> $10000*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive >> lease). >> >> 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, >> but not 'juicy'. :) >> >> 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month >> (per sector). Now we're talking. >> >> We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can >> beat the interference from CPS Energy. >> >> Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >> >> Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. >> $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. >> Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive >> ARPU up). >> >> Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector >> with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >> Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >> And the beat goes on. >> >> $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make >> that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >> >> But that's just me. :) >> >> YMMV. >> >> JP >> >> *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > CAMBIUM: >> > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor >> $600 = TOTAL: $10000 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >> customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >> > >> > UBNT: >> > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor >> $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >> > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >> > >> > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS >> subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) >> > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >>> talk about cost. :) >>> > >>> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 >>> clients. >>> > >>> > JP >>> > >>> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >>> > >>> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>> > > >>>> > > Josh Luthman >>>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > > Suite 1337 >>>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as >>>>> opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>>>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>>>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, >>>>> not even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector >>>>> shielding which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market >>>>> where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. >>>>> Hell, we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it >>>>>> work in foliage areas. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>>>>>> experience input. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>>>>>> > > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>>>>>> > > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>>>>>> > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one >>>>>>> mile away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees >>>>>>> about 80 >>>>>>> to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Thank you in advance for your reply. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ralf > > Gulf Wireless Inc. > > * >>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>>> > > [email protected] >>>>>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> > > [email protected] >>>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > > [email protected] >>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > >>> > > -RickG >>> > >>> > Joe Portman >>> > Alamo Broadband Inc. >>> > www.alamobroadband.com >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> > >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > -RickG >> >> >> Joe Portman >> Alamo Broadband Inc. >> www.alamobroadband.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >
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