JP, I apologize if you took my comment as a personal offense, it was not directed at you but rather I was sharing my experience in a moment of "weakness" :P Either way, no need to reply because we've definitely beaten this horse to death. That said, thanks again!
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:33 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: > Easy enough to verify, the stock sale was registered with the SEC. > 5 minutes of research on Google will give you a pretty good idea of who I > am, what I own, etc. > And, I think this is the last time I will ever respond to you, since I > don't fancy being called a prevaricator. > Please, please, please, ignore all my advice. > > JP > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:26:18 -0400, RickG wrote* > > JP, With all due respect, I know and have known many "millionaires" - > until you see their balance sheet and realize they owe more than they own. > With that said, if you've done better than they, then congratulations are > in order. I do appreciate your input, so thanks for that! > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:11 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> > I became a multimillionaire through the judicious use of debt. >> > >> > Went from 0 to $2.1 million a year in 4.5 years, from 0 to 11000 dialup >> customers. >> > Could not have done it with cash. :) >> > >> > I have Jim Hollis (fispa) to thank for opening my eyes to cash flow >> based financing. >> > >> > Nothing major gets built without leverage. >> > >> > YMMV, >> > JP >> > >> > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:04:59 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > >> > > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. >> > > >> > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> > > Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. >>> :) SB able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >>> > > >>> > > $10000*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY >>> expensive lease). >>> > > >>> > > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. >>> Acceptable, but not 'juicy'. :) >>> > > >>> > > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per >>> month (per sector). Now we're talking. >>> > > >>> > > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if >>> we can beat the interference from CPS Energy. >>> > > >>> > > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >>> > > >>> > > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as >>> well. $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. >>> > > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to >>> drive ARPU up). >>> > > >>> > > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for >>> sector with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >>> > > Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >>> > > >>> > > And the beat goes on. >>> > > >>> > > $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd >>> make that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >>> > > >>> > > But that's just me. :) >>> > > >>> > > YMMV. >>> > > >>> > > JP >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* > CAMBIUM: >>> > > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + >>> Labor $600 = TOTAL: $10000 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >>> customers @ $50/month = $500/month >>> > > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >>> > > > >>> > > > UBNT: >>> > > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + >>> Labor $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >>> > > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >>> > > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >>> > > > >>> > > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on >>> LOS subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! >>> :) >>> > > > >>> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > >>>> > > > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then >>>> come talk about cost. :) >>>> > > > >>>> > > > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 >>>> clients. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > JP >>>> > > > >>>> > > > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple >>>>> years. >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > Josh Luthman >>>>> > > > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> > > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> > > > > 1100 Wayne St >>>>> > > > > Suite 1337 >>>>> > > > > Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps >>>>>> in foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of >>>>>> hill which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be >>>>>> hard >>>>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as >>>>>> opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and >>>>>> have customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. >>>>>> That >>>>>> is enough time to recover investment and make something. >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long >>>>>> time, not even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector >>>>>> shielding which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each >>>>>> market where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many >>>>>> spots. Hell, we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make >>>>>>> it work in foliage areas. >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head >>>>>>> Productions <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real >>>>>>>> life experience input. >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>>>>>>> > > > > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>>>>>>> > > > > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>>>>>>> > > > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are >>>>>>>> about one mile away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine >>>>>>>> trees about 80 to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > Thank you in advance for your reply. >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Ralf > > > > Gulf Wireless Inc. > > > > * >>>>>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> > > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>>>> > > > > [email protected] >>>>>>>> > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> > > > > [email protected] >>>>>> > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> > > > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> > > > > [email protected] >>>>> > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > -- >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > -RickG >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Joe Portman >>>> > > > Alamo Broadband Inc. >>>> > > > www.alamobroadband.com >>>> > > > >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > > > [email protected] >>>> > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > >>> > > > -RickG >>> > > >>> > > Joe Portman >>> > > Alamo Broadband Inc. >>> > > www.alamobroadband.com >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>> > > [email protected] >>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > -RickG >> > >> > Joe Portman >> > Alamo Broadband Inc. >> > www.alamobroadband.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -RickG > > > Joe Portman > Alamo Broadband Inc. > www.alamobroadband.com > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG
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