Quoting Narcis Garcia <[email protected]>:
I agree with Keith Grider in a subject: "please name all programs in the
UI the same as the cli (...) if you want to diagnose the problem, you
need to grep all over the internet to find out what the program name is
to be able to launch from the command line to see what errors are occurring"
This problem is worse with localized UI.
Yes. It makes no sense to name something "File Manager" instead of
"Nautilus" when Nautilus is a name you can love and a brand name.
Kubuntu (KDE) just puts a like subtitle next to the real name in the
menu to describe it. I don't think "File Manager" (or whatever) makes
much sense and you cannot love it. Only the most mediocre computer
users do not know what "file manager" or anything with a name is and
some of them don't even know what the button "web" is supposed to do
(in a kiosk computer). You can't really cater to them. Those users
can't use Linux anyway. People who have to learn how to use a mouse
and who cannot make double-clicks without moving the mouse too much
(it happens all too common). I don't think that should be your target
audience. A proficient computer user that cannot use a mouse and does
not know what a file manager icon is supposed to do -- they can never
use linux. They couldn't use Windows. You'd only give them a Mac, at
best. I feel it is catering to the lowest common denominator.
Personally I think Gnome would be at least twice as good if they got
rid of those confusing names when there are good names for those
programs already.
Just my opinion, as well.
Bart.
El 25/06/15 a les 15:44, Keith Grider ha escrit:
Hi,
I have been running Gnome desktop under Ubuntu since 11.04. I did not
like Unity and did not like the Gnome fallback. Tried Elementary OS for
a while and came back to Ubuntu Gnome because they are so slow to
release Freya.
The new Gnome in 15.04 seems snappier and I like it. I could care less
about the cutting edge, latest Gnome, I just want it to run. I am in the
process of upgrading my computers from 14.04 to 15.04. 2 down and 2 to
go. There are some kernel improvements in 15.04 which help a couple
issues I was having with 14.04 (1 is that network manager is somewhat
broken in 14.04.2 The via_velocity module will not reconnect to the lan
after suspend and another is with wifi on my laptop.)
Stuff that does not work or does not work 'correctly' in 15.04, IMO:
1. I can no longer unload a module at suspend time. I know this is a
kernel problem and not Gnome, but it is a problem for me. I used to
be able to do this with 13.04, but since 12.04, I can no longer get
it to unload the aic7xxx module before suspending. No matter what I
put in the |/etc/pm/config.d/modules, it will not unload. As soon as
I try to use that module, the kernel panics and locks up the
computer. It is an old card, but runs my scanner just fine. It used
to work correctly and now it only works after boot and crashes after
the first suspend resume cycle. I can do it by hand and can also
blacklist it so I cna load it when I need it, but it should be able
to be automated, this is a regression.
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2. ||The Gnome login screen needs a suspend time out. As it is, I have
my users set auto suspend after 30 minutes. It would be nice if I
could set that for The Gnome login screen as well via the Gnome UI
somehow. It has been this way for a while and it is a regression, IMO.
3. The Gnome login screen does not have a suspend option. All I can do
is shut down or reboot from the login screen.
4. The openjdk-*-jre install no longer has a .desktop file for right
clicking and launching *.jar files in Nautilus, it must be created
by hand to run these files.
5. Please, please, please name all programs in the UI the same as the
cli... Please. It is tough to click and try to launch something in
the UI, have nothing happen then if you want to diagnose the
problem, you need to grep all over the internet to find out what the
program name is to be able to launch from the command line to see
what errors are occurring. I do not have a specific example right
now, but could find one if you need. I think one of them is 'files'.
Just call it 'nautilus'.
Keep up the good work.
Keith
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ali/amjjawad <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear everyone,
Before we start the planning for this cycle (Wily Werewolf - 15.04),
I'd like to run this survey before anything else:
https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time/
It would be very important for me and everyone else to understand
what we have done, what we are doing and what we are suppose to do
in the future. Above all, we do need to understand what *OUR USERS*
think :)
I am having very limited time to spend so if the survey is bad or
lack some questions, etc .. please keep in mind that this is what my
time allowed me to do. I think I did my best and I'd like to
apologize in advance for any inconvenience.
You can *ALWAYS* write to us and send your feedback here, on this
mailing list:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs
and/or *FEEL FREE to contact me* :)
The survey should *NOT* take more than _*3 minutes*_ from your time.
*Here is the direct link:*
http://goo.gl/forms/sXdsxPIkfZ
You can only answer it ONE time so please, make sure to read the
questions carefully ;)
Thank you so much!
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