Hi Bart, list, the thing with names is that it's better when they actually *mean* something. An experimented user will immediately know that Firefox is a web browser or that Evolution is an email program. But normal users will have no clue about it :) Some apps use names that provide clues as to what the purpose of the app is, like Rhythmbox or Gedit, but most don't.
I think the recent trend among GNOME developers is that the app name is more like an internal code, not aimed at being used in the user experience. Maybe a good way to fix your problem would be to have a "Launch in terminal" entry in the app's dash icon, next to "New Window" and "Add to favourites", possibly as a GNOME Shell extension ? Le vendredi 26 juin 2015 à 10:25 +0200, Bart Schouten a écrit : > Quoting Narcis Garcia <[email protected]>: > > > I agree with Keith Grider in a subject: "please name all programs in the > > UI the same as the cli (...) if you want to diagnose the problem, you > > need to grep all over the internet to find out what the program name is > > to be able to launch from the command line to see what errors are occurring" > > > > This problem is worse with localized UI. > > Yes. It makes no sense to name something "File Manager" instead of > "Nautilus" when Nautilus is a name you can love and a brand name. > Kubuntu (KDE) just puts a like subtitle next to the real name in the > menu to describe it. I don't think "File Manager" (or whatever) makes > much sense and you cannot love it. Only the most mediocre computer > users do not know what "file manager" or anything with a name is and > some of them don't even know what the button "web" is supposed to do > (in a kiosk computer). You can't really cater to them. Those users > can't use Linux anyway. People who have to learn how to use a mouse > and who cannot make double-clicks without moving the mouse too much > (it happens all too common). I don't think that should be your target > audience. A proficient computer user that cannot use a mouse and does > not know what a file manager icon is supposed to do -- they can never > use linux. They couldn't use Windows. You'd only give them a Mac, at > best. I feel it is catering to the lowest common denominator. > > Personally I think Gnome would be at least twice as good if they got > rid of those confusing names when there are good names for those > programs already. > > Just my opinion, as well. > > Bart. > > > > > > > > > El 25/06/15 a les 15:44, Keith Grider ha escrit: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have been running Gnome desktop under Ubuntu since 11.04. I did not > >> like Unity and did not like the Gnome fallback. Tried Elementary OS for > >> a while and came back to Ubuntu Gnome because they are so slow to > >> release Freya. > >> > >> The new Gnome in 15.04 seems snappier and I like it. I could care less > >> about the cutting edge, latest Gnome, I just want it to run. I am in the > >> process of upgrading my computers from 14.04 to 15.04. 2 down and 2 to > >> go. There are some kernel improvements in 15.04 which help a couple > >> issues I was having with 14.04 (1 is that network manager is somewhat > >> broken in 14.04.2 The via_velocity module will not reconnect to the lan > >> after suspend and another is with wifi on my laptop.) > >> > >> Stuff that does not work or does not work 'correctly' in 15.04, IMO: > >> > >> 1. I can no longer unload a module at suspend time. I know this is a > >> kernel problem and not Gnome, but it is a problem for me. I used to > >> be able to do this with 13.04, but since 12.04, I can no longer get > >> it to unload the aic7xxx module before suspending. No matter what I > >> put in the |/etc/pm/config.d/modules, it will not unload. As soon as > >> I try to use that module, the kernel panics and locks up the > >> computer. It is an old card, but runs my scanner just fine. It used > >> to work correctly and now it only works after boot and crashes after > >> the first suspend resume cycle. I can do it by hand and can also > >> blacklist it so I cna load it when I need it, but it should be able > >> to be automated, this is a regression. > >> | > >> 2. ||The Gnome login screen needs a suspend time out. As it is, I have > >> my users set auto suspend after 30 minutes. It would be nice if I > >> could set that for The Gnome login screen as well via the Gnome UI > >> somehow. It has been this way for a while and it is a regression, IMO. > >> 3. The Gnome login screen does not have a suspend option. All I can do > >> is shut down or reboot from the login screen. > >> 4. The openjdk-*-jre install no longer has a .desktop file for right > >> clicking and launching *.jar files in Nautilus, it must be created > >> by hand to run these files. > >> 5. Please, please, please name all programs in the UI the same as the > >> cli... Please. It is tough to click and try to launch something in > >> the UI, have nothing happen then if you want to diagnose the > >> problem, you need to grep all over the internet to find out what the > >> program name is to be able to launch from the command line to see > >> what errors are occurring. I do not have a specific example right > >> now, but could find one if you need. I think one of them is 'files'. > >> Just call it 'nautilus'. > >> > >> Keep up the good work. > >> > >> Keith > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ali/amjjawad <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Dear everyone, > >> > >> Before we start the planning for this cycle (Wily Werewolf - 15.04), > >> I'd like to run this survey before anything else: > >> > >> https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time/ > >> > >> It would be very important for me and everyone else to understand > >> what we have done, what we are doing and what we are suppose to do > >> in the future. Above all, we do need to understand what *OUR USERS* > >> think :) > >> > >> I am having very limited time to spend so if the survey is bad or > >> lack some questions, etc .. please keep in mind that this is what my > >> time allowed me to do. I think I did my best and I'd like to > >> apologize in advance for any inconvenience. > >> > >> You can *ALWAYS* write to us and send your feedback here, on this > >> mailing list: > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs > >> > >> > >> and/or *FEEL FREE to contact me* :) > >> > >> > >> The survey should *NOT* take more than _*3 minutes*_ from your time. > >> > >> *Here is the direct link:* > >> http://goo.gl/forms/sXdsxPIkfZ > >> > >> You can only answer it ONE time so please, make sure to read the > >> questions carefully ;) > >> > >> Thank you so much! > >> > >> -- > >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > >> > >> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME > >> <http://ubuntugnome.org/> > >> > >> -- > >> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > > > > > >
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