The problem is that users like Nigel and myself are disadvantaged as they want to retain numbers but find they cannot control the quality of service in doing so.
I don't know what the rates are today but in 2007 Magnus Kelly gave a very clueful presentation at UKNOF8 that shows the carrier holding the number range of a ported number retains .8p per min (I think he was being specific to mobile numbers) See slide 7 http://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof8/Kelly-Mobile_portability.pdf That is architecturally significant ;-) Christian Neil J. McRae wrote: > I have no idea about those rates, what I can tell you is that unless this is > addressed in the architecture (as done in other countries) then any other > solutions will have significant pitfalls and a unit cost explosion - given > the margin direction on voice generically I don't think that's in anyone's > interest. > > That probably means a different set of winners and losers that the prior > proposal would have but ( personally speaking I agree with some but not all > of voda's points) it would mean a sustainable platform in the medium term. > > Regards > Neil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 13 Jun 2013, at 09:24, "Christian de Larrinaga" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can you remind me the termination rate fee the originating carrier >> receives for these "ported" redirections to the new carrier? >> >> >> >> Christian >> >> Neil J. McRae wrote: >>> You can't just "fix" this without addressing other issues in the PSTN >>> architecture. >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 12 Jun 2013, at 18:41, "Christian de Larrinaga" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The spineless attitude in Ofcom to porting is seriously inadequate in my >>>> humble opinion. >>>> >>>> There should be a national porting service that ENUM like would manage >>>> the routing without having to ingress into a legacy supply chain. >>>> >>>> Other countries manage it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> Nigel Titley wrote: >>>>> On 12/06/2013 14:34, Gavin Henry wrote: >>>>>>>> The ITSPA members list is a good place to start >>>>>>>> http://www.itspa.org.uk/members.shtml Some people on here are more >>>>>>>> wholesale. >>>>>> Hi Nigel, >>>>>> >>>>>> Also check out those with the QMA symbol as that will shorten your list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some things to check before moving away: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Your phone numbers; will you be porting them away? >>>>> It would be less hassle than informing several thousand customers... so >>>>> yes >>>>>> 2. If yes, were they ported to Gradwell or are they brand new? >>>>> They were brand new and assigned to to us by Gradwell >>>>>> 3. If new, then the Ofcom range holder is probably Telephony Services >>>>>> which means legally when you move away the calls still come into >>>>>> Telephony Services/Gradwell/AQL and then bounce back out with a >>>>>> special prefix for the new provider. That's how porting works. >>>>> Hmm.... >>>>>> Therefore, if they have network issues or downtime in the core then >>>>>> the calls won't get sent back out to the new provider even though >>>>>> you've moved on. >>>>> That's more than a little annoying... but I can see why it would be the >>>>> case. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the information >>>>> >>>>> Nigel > >
