At 23:40 +0100 2004-01-03, Philippe Verdy wrote:
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 22:37 +0100 2004-01-03, Philippe Verdy wrote:

>Note that a fundamental property of character identity is its most common
 > >classification as a vowel, consonnant, or semi-vowel.
 >
 That isn't true. The letter "v" is a vowel in Cherokee, a consonant
 in Czech, and (often) a semivowel in Danish.

Stop arguing against each of my words. And READ: Is said "most common" on purpose above. Once again you are volontarily interpreting things that I did not say just to find a way to contradict me.

No, I am not. "Vowel", "consonant", or "semi-vowel" is not a "fundamental property of character identity", and as I have shown, any given letter can have any number of these values. Which is why these "properties" are not "fundamental" to "character identity".


I feel now that you have your own reading of the Unicode standard.

I am sure that many will agree with you. (I am perfectly aware that sometimes I am less patient than I might be, as well. That's a character issue, perhaps.)


But stop saying always that your position is neutral, objective.

I didn't. I said that you said something that wasn't true.


You have the right to think that the representative glyphs are not
representative at all. I think the opposite. You may not like these glyphs,
because you, as a typographic expert, would have designed them
differently.

Actually, I vetted a great many of the chart glyphs (GHA especially) to ensure that they were as correctly representative as possible.


I really think that you are unable to accept any words that you have not said yourself, and you accept no compromize and prefer a systematic and, once again, dogmatic positions as THE only allowed and omnipotent expert for all questions regarding Unicode.

I'm not omnipotent, nor do I speak for the Unicode Consortium. I'm just an expert. When I am dogmatic, it is (as in this case) often due to the fact that we have a *standard* here. You were misusing or misunderstanding and misusing the terms "normative" and "informative". That distinction *is* dogma.
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Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com




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