Frank Carroll wrote:
If I remember correctly—and I'm sure that I do—Kyle
started his "personal" listserv less than a week before
his book was released. I always suspected that he did it
to avoid any discussion about the book's subject matter.
In that sense I agree with you. I don't think he can
easily deal with disagreements. I could be wrong.


when kyle announced his new list on june 28 2007, it was also during a time when there was a lot of discussion on this list about the newspaper reports of the ucd scandal over john fenton. here's kyle discussing it on jun 27:

http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18162.html

these discussions were also tied to discussions about the scandal's negative impact on ucd and its proposed nid, which had been a long ongoing topic on this list and which kyle actively took part in. over the years, and even today, many discussions on this list reveal a lot of things that organizations (like shca, uchs, fopc, ucd) would, understandably, not like to be publicly available. that's the thing about this list: it has a publicly accessible archive.

here's kyle on jun 28, announcing his new list and his intention to unsubscribe from this list:

http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18858.html

and here's kyle later that same day, asking if we could stop talking about ucd and fenton:

http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18194.html


. . .


but the nice thing about this list's archive: any reader can access the context and behaviors of the people posting, and see and judge for themselves their degree of civility, their taking sides, forming cliques -- or not -- and how such an archive makes disgusting pieces of revisionist history impossible.

it also shows how people like to hear themselves validated on a list, by like-minded people. for example, just before kyle formed his new list, here he was, with ross, mike vanhelder and brian, laughing together over a murder that had occurred at 49th and locust:

http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg17995.html


and here was al calling attention to that:

http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18016.html



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