Good suggestions, Scott and BR. My list now:
- Persistent rect - Crop to rect - Lock rect (analogous to lockLoc’s “Lock size and position”) Anyone else want to chime in? <react to soapbox> Yes, I admit I threw up a little bit in my mouth when I typed “Don’t…”, but in my defense it was pretty far down the list. </react to soapbox> Devin > On Jun 13, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Scott Rossi via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > <soapbox> > > The most important rule to follow when establishing any new property should > be: Don't use "dont". > > The application of a "negative property" should never have been established > (dontWrap, I'm talking to you). Properties should always be non-negative and > simply enabled or disabled depending on the default behavior. > > </soapbox> > > In this case, I get that you're referring to readable label, so there's more > flexibility here of course, I just needed to vent :-) > > The above said, you're right, this is a tricky case. IMO the real > differentiation here is that the rect of the *unlocked* group remains > unaffected by the locations of its child objects. Since you know the control > is a group, maybe the verbose label is something like "persistent rect" since > the rect will, for the most part, remain constant. > > Maybe I'm forgetting something… > > On Jun 13, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <bra...@hindu.org> > wrote: > > re: label for adding clipsToRect to the PI > > from a graphic design point of view…where people are frequently doing this > very same thing inside some frame|window|div etc. in fact, may be switching > back and forth between their image design environment and Livecode… > > there is also strong logic for > > Group crops to rect > > This also correlates well with the word "clips" in the property name itself. > i.e. zero ambiquity > > Where as "fixed" doesn't quite cut it from a linguistic "brain can follow" > perspective > > And.. since we don't iterate the name of the object in other property > labels… ie.. there is no label "Don't search group" … just "Don't search" > > I am pretty sure that > > Crops to rect > > would suffice. >> On Jun 13, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Devin Asay via use-livecode >> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Jun 12, 2017, at 11:45 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: >> >> On 2017-06-12 22:22, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> For group controls you will find that it is. Try it. It's quite handy. >> >> Another useful thing which I'm not sure is particularly visible (but is in >> the dictionary!) is the group 'clipsToRect' property. >> >> When 'the clipsToRect' is set to true you get a group which acts like >> lockLocation is set, but is resizable. In this case the group's size is >> determined purely by the rect it has set, and not the union of the >> rectangles of its children. >> >> This might have been mentioned somewhere else in this thread, but its >> probably worth repeating if so as a group with clipsToRect true, and a >> resizeControl handler makes a good base for a custom control. >> >> It’s not visible in the PI, but it’s not hard to add. I’d be happy to make a >> pull request for it. The main question is what would be the “readable label” >> of this property? (My current favorite is the first one.) >> >> - Group rect remains fixed >> - Fixed group rect >> - Lock group rect >> - Group rect is fixed >> - Don’t change group rect >> - Group rect is independent of child controls >> - Prevent group rect size when child objects move or resize >> >> It’s a tricky balance between clear enough and short enough. >> >> Ideas? >> >> Devin >> >> >> >> Devin Asay >> Director >> Office of Digital Humanities >> Brigham Young University >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Devin Asay Director Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
