Hi Russell, I kind a like the level of presentation of RS as it is. I know I could have really really used some basic hands-on vid for the first few months of RS but then I had never done any time at all on any kind of 3D app. And now of course I have no need for the entry level stuff. Or rather, I probably do since I doubt if any of my systems are the slickest but they're good enough.
As for the complex stuff that I confront every now and then ... I just fight it out with the manual and that usually works. If it doesnt then I ask for help and it is always available ... and this is the key ... it is available at the time I need it which is the only time I'm going to sit down and look at it anyway. I disagree with Garry's > The RS3D community is still here , but in a very "walking wounded" sort of way , if you ask me . ... for me RS is vital and alive. A massive attraction for me is that I do have to work to bring myself up to speed with apsects of RS that I want to add to my skills and the fun and value is the greater because of that. Nor do I think much would be saved if I had someone showing me how to do every little thing, I think I'd go back to engraving. I can not emphasize enough this point ... it is best summed up by someone's byline on a forum ... No need to re-invent the wheel, but he that does knows more about wheels. And it's the peripheral understanding and chance happenings that can be so useful even if half of them turn into dead ends ... and every now and then a better wheel gets made too. I've had RS for a couple of years and yet just the other day I realised I was continually bugged by the inability to deselect one item of a selection without having to deselect them all and start all over ... and finally it dawned on me that RS couldnt be that silly, so I tried the Alt button ... what a sense of achievement ... and absolute proof of something I try not to confront .. that I'm thick as a brick. Anyway, two more cents into the mix, Neil Cooke. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: Re: video tutorials (was Re: create a tentacle) > $20,000 for producing a DVD is probably more or less accurate. But, if the > edited video is, instead, placed online to be downloaded in, perhaps, XVid > or Divx format (or wmv or whatever) then the cost goes WAY down. I'll bet > that there are a number of people here who would be more than willing to put > up the bandwidth (whtin reason) to host at least some of those videos. > > It can be done! For very little monetary (but lots of time and dedication) > cost, if there are those willing to devote the time to 'record' them. Maybe > some guru here could record the raw tutorial(s), then someone else, who has > some editing experience, can put it together into a more professional > looking piece? It could be a community project that many of us could > contribute to - even those of us who are not in the 'expert' league... > > It's worth some thought, anyways. > > Any other thoughts on this, anyone? > > Russell Jones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:18 AM > Subject: Re: video tutorials (was Re: create a tentacle) > > > >> Hi Russel, > >> I couldn't agree more. > > > > Hi Chris : > > > > OK , please allow me to play so called 'devils advocate' here for > > a minute or 99 . > > > >> I've said before, RS should take a half-year off of development, and > >> spend it explaining all the goodies already in the program we don't know > >> how to use. > > > > Warning ! Not going to happen and do not hold your breathe . Any > > business person will tell you "do not try to fix what is not broken" > > and the Realsoft strategy is working just fine , as is , for now . > > > > However , I certainly do understand that the provided Doc's can > > be a bitch at times and I would agree with you totally, that it > > would be fantastic if Realsoft would hire a couple of people to > > re-do the HTML manual and add a series of DVD tutorials based on > > all kinds of cool stuff that we can very easily do with RS3D . > > > > Fact of the matter is , it's not going to happen unless the user > > community does it , and as we well know , that also will not happen > > in a way that has any kind of an impact (however , please do see the > > frog UV mapping tutorial shown in the forum recently by yra ) . > > > > I think if we really look at the situation we "kind'a-sort of" have > > to arrive at some relevant ... and a few most primary conclusions . > > > > 1) Realsoft devotes _MOST_ of it's energies into coding advanced 3D . > > 2) As frustrating as it can be sometimes , almost everything works . > > 3) A Service Pack update is a free bug fix (please report all bugs!) > > 4) A Service Pack update is also a free incremental upgrade . > > > >> They held some sort of educational conference thingy a couple years > >> back, and I begged them to throw it on some dvd's. > >> I will pay! > >> cm > > > > You and me and she will pay , but!!... do the numbers justify a > > DVD , especially with all the digital pirating going on these days ? > > > > With some companies , like http://www.autodesk.com/3dsmax it all > > boils down to accounting . $20-30-40K USD into any one particular > > area is just a matter of continued justification . (use it or loose > > it) With Realsoft , dropping $20,000 on a DVD would probably mean > > a re-coup of a third of that initially , and then with a V6 release > > those V5.x DVD's will _immediately_ become suspect to most users . > > > > As Russell Jones said "it would be really great" . However , if > > anyone truly felt the need to provide it , then it might actually > > happen and if not ... then not . > > > > I think if you take a good hard look at RS3D you will see that the > > included HTML manual is designed to get you going . Beyond that it > > seems that we have several alternative solutions to our desires ... > > > > 1) this mailing list > > 2) the forum > > 3) the IRC channel > > 4) Vesa or Juha (via email) > > 5) other 3D web sites that use very similiar methodologies > > 6) the strip club (Amber digs her PS2 graphics) > > > > As far as instructional DVD's , or even RS cleaning up it's > > rusting home site is concerned ... I would say "not" . The RS > > concentration is on providing state-of-the-art 3D animation > > tools at a very low price-point , and that will be the impetus > > for some time to come , I would guess . > > > > Or at least until huge 3D companies like autodesk begin to give > > ultra-advanced 3D softwares away for free , so as to do away with > > smaller , more concentrated efforts , in a continued effort to > > gain dominating total unanswerable control of the industry/(art). > > > > Let's hope that , that strategy is not so effective after all . > > To have 3D Studio license your efforts has got to be the best > > way to go but , then again , how and why hollywood has never > > caught on to RS3D is totally beyond me . > > > > RS is as open-ended as possible , VSL ...Free SDK ...realman > > and it goes on & on ... but somehow the world-class creators have > > not yet managed to see the obvious potentials of RS3DV5.1 . > > > > That day will most surely come and when it does we will all > > reap the benefits of the inevitable influx ... > > > > Have a Nice Day ! > > > > studio > > www.niagara.com/~studio > > www.studiodynamics.net > > > > > >> Russell Jones wrote: > >> > It would be really great if RS came with an extra CD (or preferably > >> > DVD) that was filled with video tutorials to visually show how these > >> > things are done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 > > > > >
