My2Cents

Whether its a "framework" or "product" depends on the utilisation
perspective.  End-users are typically looking for ready-to-use products
whereas developers and integrators are more keen on frameworks. I think the
best description is "framework" for various reasons, chief amongst which is
the very nature of the functionalities itself.  The majority of the Ofbiz
functionalities require further business analysis and customisation before
implementation. By the way, I do agree that some reference should be made
to OOTB useability.

Gavin


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Le 04/09/2014 21:16, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
>
>> The opening description at http://ofbiz.apache.org/ violates Apache's
>> trademark policy is some very minor ways.
>>
>> "Apache OFBiz (The Apache Open For Business Project) is an open source
>> enterprise automation software project licensed under the Apache License
>> Version 2.0. By open source enterprise automation we mean: Open Source ERP
>> (Enterprise Resource Planning), Open Source CRM (Customer RelationShip
>> Management), Open Source E-Business / E-Commerce, Open Source SCM (Supply
>> Chain Management), Open Source MRP (Manufacturing Resources Planning), Open
>> Source CMMS/EAM (Maintenance Management System/Enterprise Asset
>> Management), Open Source POS (Point Of Sale), and so on.
>> Apache OFBiz is a foundation and starting point for reliable, secure and
>> scalable enterprise solutions. Use it out-of-the-box (OOTB) or customize to
>> suit even your most challenging business needs. With OFBiz in place, you
>> can get started right away and then grow your operations as your business
>> grows, without the huge deployment and maintenance costs of traditional
>> enterprise automation systems.
>> Apache OFBiz is a project of The Apache Software Foundation."
>>
>> could be modified to be
>>
>> "Apache OFBiz, the Apache Open For Business package, is an open source
>> enterprise automation software product that includes ERP (Enterprise
>> Resource Planning), CRM (Customer Relationship Management),  E-Business /
>> E-Commerce,  SCM (Supply Chain Management),  MRP (Manufacturing Resources
>> Planning),  MMS/EAM (Maintenance Management System/Enterprise Asset
>> Management) and POS (Point Of Sale) functions.
>> Apache OFBiz provides a foundation and starting point for reliable,
>> secure and scalable enterprise solutions. Use it out-of-the-box or
>> customize it to suit even your most challenging business needs. With OFBiz,
>> you can get started right away without the huge deployment and maintenance
>> costs of traditional enterprise automation systems. As your business grows,
>> extend the functionality to meet your more sophisticated needs
>> The Apache OFBiz project is part of The Apache Software Foundation."
>>
>> This meets the need to protect the Apache OFBiz trademark by defining it
>> as a "package" rather than a "project". Projects can not be trademarked
>> (according to Apache) so the definition of OfBiz must define it as a thing
>> - "software", "package" or "system" are possible.
>>
>
> I'd rather incline to system instead of package and would remove product,
> software is enough, no? But I'd even prefer framework than system...
>
>
>> I also changed CMMS to MMS since the full name is  "Maintenance
>> Management System". Not sure if someone wrote CMMS on purpose and forgot to
>> add the "C-word" to the definition.
>>
>
> I guess a confusion with CMS. OFBiz has also a (very useful) content
> component, but we can't call it a CMS
>
>
>> I removed the repetition of "Open Source" since it applies to all
>> features and just makes the sentence very hard to read. I would suggest
>> putting the features as bullets to increase readability but that is a
>> question of taste and how that would look on the page.
>>
>>  Agreed
>
>  I removed the "OOTB" since term is not used later on the page and just
>> interrupts the flow for no benefit.
>>
>
> +1
>
>  CRM - Relationship is one word and the "S" should not be capitalized.
>>
> +1
>
>>
>> I split the second last sentence to make the sentence easier to read. Is
>> " extend the functionality" an appropriate way to express the idea implied
>> in the original sentence.
>>
> +1
>
>>
>> How does this look? Have I screwe up anything?
>>
>
> No I feel your version is clearer and easier to read.
>
>  Are there any other ideas that we should include in the opening
>> introduction to OFBiz? Typical customers or some guidance about the target
>> market?
>>
> The simpler the better, I'd go with your version
>
>>
>> The bullets in the second column repeat some of the functionality
>> description is this section.
>> They seem to be selective without a balance between the major
>> functionality listed in column 1.
>>
> I guess this blue block is there for people with TL;DR tendency ;)
>
> BTW since we propose packaged releases, we should soon begin to think
> about removing words like POS and such; they will no longer be part of
> future releases...
> For the POS (and others maybe) we should though explain how it's possible
> to check them out from trunk and add them to a released package...
>
> Jacques
>
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>

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