>Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2026 at 8:18 PM
From: "Samuel Sieb" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Aw: Re: Aw: Re: startx fails after update
On 6/27/26 3:07 AM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote:
> On 6/26/26 3:55 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote:
> > On 6/26/26 2:33 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote:
> > > After updating from fc42 to fc44, startx fails.
> > > What to do? See below
> >
> > > ** (gnome-session:4909): WARNING **: 23:19:46.671: Launched from the
> > > TTY. Launching a Wayland session
> > Gnome wants to run Wayland. Why are you trying to start X?
> >
> > This machine is used only for rescue and I do not start an X session
> > intentionally
> > Starting in text mode and then startx was working fine in fc42.
> > Has it been changed in fc43 or fc44 ?
>
> No more X support.
> You can start gdm with "systemctl start gdm" which gets you a full session.
> Or you can just run "gnome-shell". I don't know how to get out of that
> other than killing the gnome-shell process.
> I read the messages, but I all really in trouble.

I don't know what you're using but your quoting is completely broken.
Yes, I noticed the issue. The new gmx interface is crazy when answering to messages. I cannot control the behavior.
I am really sorry for that, but I do know what to do.
">" are changed in indentations. The text mode disappeared.
Do I need to change of mail provider?

> 1) I used to run wayland on a standard basis.
> It still run under fc42.
> Before updating, I updated another "minimum" system (multiboot) from
> fc42 to fc44. Under this configuration, I used to start in text mode
> before running startx (wayland). This is not possible now as I explained
> before.
> Running systemctl start gdm does not bring me anywhere. I do not get my
> usual gnome environment and I can only CTL DEL.

This is exactly the same as if it started normally from boot.
I do not think so.

> Running gnome-shell brings me in a graphics window but without my usual
> gnome environment properly set.

 What do you mean by "usual gnome environment"?
Typically, I have 2 bars: top and bottom bars that I can manage using gnome-extensions for example.
Unfortunately, the list manager does not accept "big" file and I cannot send a screenshot.
There are typically the packages that I installed till fc42 included
bluecurve-gnome-theme-1.0.0-23.fc36.noarch
gnome-themes-2.32.0-21.fc32.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-calc-0-0.14.gite4f4ac5.fc29.noarch
polkit-gnome-0.106-0.16.20170423gita0763a2.fc40.x86_64
gnome-translate-0.99-43.fc39.x86_64
gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0-25.fc42.noarch
gnome-icon-theme-legacy-3.12.0-25.fc42.noarch
gnome-vfs2-common-2.24.4-47.fc42.noarch
gnome-vfs2-2.24.4-47.fc42.x86_64
gnome-menus-3.36.0-13.fc42.x86_64
pinentry-gnome3-1.3.1-3.fc42.x86_64
gnome-backgrounds-48.2.1-2.fc42.noarch
gnome-video-effects-0.6.0-7.fc42.noarch
libgnome-2.32.1-33.fc42.x86_64
libgnome-keyring-3.12.0-31.fc42.x86_64
fedora-chromium-config-gnome-3.0-7.fc42.noarch
gnome-chemistry-utils-libs-0.14.17-49.fc42.x86_64
gnome-settings-daemon-48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-session-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
libgnomekbd-3.28.1-7.fc42.x86_64
gnome-keyring-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-autoar-0.4.5-2.fc42.x86_64
gnome-keyring-pam-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-abrt-1.4.3-4.fc42.x86_64
gnome-color-manager-3.36.2-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-packagekit-common-43.0-7.fc42.x86_64
f42-backgrounds-gnome-42.0.0-3.fc42.noarch
gnome-packagekit-installer-43.0-7.fc42.x86_64
gnome-packagekit-updater-43.0-7.fc42.x86_64
gnome-calendar-48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
xdg-desktop-portal-gnome-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-tour-48.1-2.fc42.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth3.34-libs-3.34.5-9.fc42.x86_64
libgnomecanvas-2.30.3-31.fc42.x86_64
gnome-themes-extra-3.28-22.fc42.x86_64
libgnomeui-2.24.5-35.fc42.x86_64
gnome-session-wayland-session-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-common-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-launch-new-instance-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-places-menu-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-window-list-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-classic-session-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-app-list-3.0-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-valgrind-session-1.1-34.fc42.noarch
gnome-classic-session-xsession-48.3-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-tweaks-46.1-4.fc42.noarch
gnome-browser-connector-42.1-9.fc42.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-background-logo-48.0-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-session-xsession-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-60-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-initial-setup-48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-sharp-2.24.2-38.fc42.x86_64
gnome-photos-44.0-7.fc42.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth3.34-3.34.5-9.fc42.x86_64
gnome-system-monitor-48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-chemistry-utils-0.14.17-49.fc42.x86_64
gnome-text-editor-48.3-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-packagekit-43.0-7.fc42.x86_64
gnome-contacts-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-connections-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-calculator-48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
NetworkManager-vpnc-gnome-1.4.0-3.fc42.x86_64
NetworkManager-openconnect-gnome-1.2.10-7.fc42.x86_64
NetworkManager-pptp-gnome-1.2.12-9.fc42.x86_64
gnome-sound-recorder-43~beta-9.fc42.noarch
gnome-characters-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-clocks-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-disk-utility-46.1-2.fc42.x86_64
gnome-screenshot-41.0-11.fc42.x86_64
gnome-font-viewer-48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-logs-45.0-5.fc42.x86_64
gnome-weather-48.0-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-battery-bench-3.15.4-25.fc42.x86_64
gnome-dictionary-40.0-12.fc42.x86_64
gnome-nettool-3.8.1-32.fc42.x86_64
gnome-system-log-3.9.90-28.fc42.x86_64
f24-backgrounds-gnome-24.1.2-21.fc42.noarch
fros-gnome-1.1-40.fc42.noarch
gnome-vfs2-smb-2.24.4-47.fc42.x86_64
gnome-epub-thumbnailer-1.8-2.fc42.x86_64
verne-backgrounds-gnome-15.92.1-28.fc42.noarch
f32-backgrounds-gnome-32.2.2-14.fc42.noarch
f26-backgrounds-gnome-26.2.7-20.fc42.noarch
f28-backgrounds-gnome-28.1.5-17.fc42.noarch
f30-backgrounds-gnome-30.1.2-16.fc42.noarch
f36-backgrounds-gnome-36.1.1-9.fc42.noarch
f38-backgrounds-gnome-38.1.1-7.fc42.noarch
f40-backgrounds-gnome-40.2.0-3.fc42.noarch
gnome-js-common-0.1.2-32.fc42.noarch
gnome-user-share-48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-online-accounts-gtk-3.50.3-5.fc42.x86_64
gnome-terminal-3.56.3-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-terminal-nautilus-3.56.3-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-user-docs-48.5-1.fc42.noarch
NetworkManager-ssh-gnome-1.4.2-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-remote-desktop-48.2-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-software-48.4-2.fc42.x86_64
gnome-software-fedora-langpacks-48.4-2.fc42.x86_64
proton-vpn-gnome-desktop-0.10.1-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-boxes-48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-extensions-app-48.7-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-shell-frippery-48.2-1.noarch
desktop-backgrounds-gnome-42.0.0-3.fc42.noarch
gnome-maps-48.8-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-commander-1.18.5-1.fc42.x86_64
NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome-1.12.5-2.fc42.x86_64
vlc-plugin-gnome-3.0.23-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-desktop3-44.5-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-desktop4-44.5-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-online-accounts-libs-3.54.11-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-control-center-filesystem-48.7-1.fc42.noarch
gnome-shell-common-48.8-1.rmy1.fc42.noarch
gnome-online-accounts-3.54.11-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-control-center-48.7-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-shell-48.8-1.rmy1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth-libs-47.2-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth-47.2-1.fc42.x86_64


> In addition, I cannot update gnome-shell, gnome-shell-common, gnome-
> shell-frippery
> I get
> Transaction failed: Signature verification failed.
> Public key "file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rmy" is already present,
> not importing.
> OpenPGP check for package "gnome-shell-50.2-1.rmy1.fc44.x86_64" (/var/
> cache/libdnf5/frippery-a6c2de037ec9e37d/packages/gnome-
> shell-50.2-1.rmy1.fc44.x86_64.rpm) from repo "frippery" has failed:
> Public key is not installed.

Those aren't the Fedora packages. You're using outside packages from
some other repo and there's something wrong with the signing key there.
Maybe you should switch back to the distro ones. I don't know what
"gnome-shell-frippery" is, but there are several "frippery" gnome shell
extensions available. 
I understand the point for gnome-shell-frippery. but why I cannot update gnome-shell and gnome-shell-common.
frippery is just one of the gnome applications
https://frippery.org/extensions/shell.html
Is it not part of fedora? It was been running like a charm for a while.
It seems that people has already complain because gnome desktop is not anymore supported by fedora.
Without a properly running DM, I cannot manage my applications. Currently my uodate to fedora 44 is stuck.

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