Joni's proposal doesn't remove typesafety - from a 1.3 stand point, it
becomes better. There is an arcane, and rather convoluted example that
allows one to generate class cast exceptions.

Martijn

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Jonathan Locke
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>
> I'm jumping into this conversation very late and I simply can't catch up on
> this entire thread, but isn't it possible to have a non-generic build of the
> generic framework for people that don't want to use generics?
>
> Skimming this discussion, in general, I tend to agree with Eelco. A good
> general approach would be to fully generify the framework and then vote to
> back out the things which are really not helpful (for example, although page
> is technically a component, pages often have no models, so it might be a
> good thing to a un-generify). Once we have found a practical/optimal level
> of generification should we vote on it. Let's not throw the baby out with
> the bathwater.
>
> Also, for myself, I disagree that type safety is not a primary goal of
> generics. Even if the API were completely clear already, I'd still prefer
> more type safety.
>
>
> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> Generics is type safety
>>
>> I didn't say generics isn't type safety. But APPLYING generics for the
>> Wicket framework API *ISN'T* its primary goal. API clarity *IS*. Less
>> questions on the mailing list regarding DDC, ListView, etc. is the
>> main goal for applying generics in Wicket.
>>
>>> I am against this abuse big time -1000 from me
>>
>> I'm -1000000000000000^1000000000000 for abusing my eyes and brain in
>> the way it currently is implemented in Wicket. It is completely and
>> utterly unusable for beginners. There is no way this is going to make
>> the number of questions on the mailinglist less (other than by scaring
>> away anyone that wants to actually use the framework)
>>
>> Martijn
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