and what would a wicket "standard" give you? Except that those idiotic managers then say "its standardized.. now you can use it" why is that is a standard for ever? dont think so everything dies. But would it run on more platforms? Would we have multiply implementations? Because thats most of the time a JCP/JSR does, it doesnt have an implementation, what wicket is, but a description/interfaces what an implementation should do..
johan On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:00, Martijn Dashorst <martijn.dasho...@gmail.com>wrote: > Bill Joy from Sun once said: innovation happens elsewhere. I think > that the where elsewhere isn't, it is the JCP. Standardization is just > antithetical to innovation. Once something is fixed in brick/mortar > how can you innovate? Wicket is very comfortably located elsewhere. > > Martijn > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > we like the agility that the independence from any sort of a standard > offers us. > > > > -igor > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Hoover, William <whoo...@nemours.org> > wrote: > >> Judging by the responses (or the lack thereof), It seems as though there > isn't enough support from the Wicket community to push for something like > this :( > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: tomlist0...@gmail.com [mailto:tomlist0...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Thomas Mäder > >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:57 PM > >> To: users@wicket.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Wicket at ApacheCon EU'09 in Amsterdam > >> > >> I totally agree that the JSR process is horrid. However, Wicket could > really use some more corporate credibility (which a JSR would provide). > >> The problem, I guess is that there are simply no corporate interests > behind Wicket that would push the agenda. What wicket need is some > evangelism, but I guess all the core people have real jobs. What we need is > less talks titled "why wicket is cool" and more "cut your development costs > in two with Wicket". From experience, I am totally convinced that you can > save 50% off your development costs if you switch to wicket (from just about > any other framework), however, I've yet to find a contracting job here in > Zürich where wicket is asked for (it's JSF, or even Struts). > >> > >> Thomas > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Johan Compagner <jcompag...@gmail.com > >wrote: > >> > >>> And then come into the horrible voting/administive stuff? Long Release > >>> cycles that are controlled, features that are discussed over and over. > >>> > >>> Hmm > >>> > >>> On 12/02/2009, Hoover, William <whoo...@nemours.org> wrote: > >>> > Just out of curiosity... Are there any plans to push a JSR that > >>> > Wicket could follow. I think there would be a lot more acceptance of > >>> > Wicket if this was to happen :o) > >>> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > >>> > From: martijn.dasho...@gmail.com [mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com] > >>> > On Behalf Of Martijn Dashorst > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:33 PM > >>> > To: users@wicket.apache.org > >>> > Subject: Wicket at ApacheCon EU'09 in Amsterdam > >>> > > >>> > We're happy to announce a lot of Wicket involvement at the upcoming > >>> > ApacheCon in Amsterdam (23-27 March 2009) > >>> > > >>> > First of all we have 2 training sessions available: > >>> > - Introduction to Wicket by Martijn Dashorst on Mon 23 March > >>> > (http://tinyurl.com/aceu09wicket1) > >>> > - Behavior-Driving Your Apache Wicket Application by Timo > >>> > Rantalaiho on Tue 24 March (http://tinyurl.com/aceu09wicket2) > >>> > > >>> > Both courses are hosted by core members. Martijn has co-authored > >>> > Wicket in Action and Timo has been involved with WicketTester and > >>> > JDave. There is no better team to get you and your team up to speed > >>> > with the finest Java web framework available and start cranking out > >>> > fully tested applications. > >>> > > >>> > Martijn will also present Wicket in Action during the normal > >>> > conference days. A quick introduction to Wicket's core features in > just one hour. > >>> > But attending the conference will give you much more: > >>> > over 60 sessions covering your favorite Apache projects. > >>> > > >>> > Amsterdam is great, but Wicket meetups in Amsterdam are even better! > >>> > We're attempting to schedule a Wicket meetup during the conference > >>> > at the conference floor. Details will follow soon. > >>> > > >>> > Read more about ApacheCon EU 2009 here: > >>> > http://www.eu.apachecon.com/c/aceu2009/ > >>> > > >>> > See you in Amsterdam! > >>> > > >>> > Martijn > >>> > > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Thomas Mäder > >> Wicket & Eclipse Consulting > >> www.devotek-it.ch > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > > > > > > > -- > Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com > Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >
