I have one question. I just bought a 92 V-Max from a Japanese dealer and he
was telling me how far I could go on a tank full of gas in the city. But
this bike is in MPH not KPH. How far can a stock V-Max go on a tank of gas
with minor hot rodding? Also, anyone know of putting a fuel gauge on the
bike somewhere?
Thanks
Steve W.
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V-Max Thu, 26 Oct 2000 Volume 1 :
Number 997
In this issue:
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: [Vmax] horsepower increase per dollar
Re: Brakes
For Sale (Factory Service Manual)
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: [Vmax] horsepower increase per dollar
Re: Brakes
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Re: horsepower increase per dollar
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:51:50 -0500
From: Vern Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The best "bang for the buck" is always a pipe and jet kit, NOS is
cheap
hp also, after those are finely tuned, it becomes very expensive.
The
Vmax motors that approach the 200 hp mark cost in $10,000 range. My
Tourmaster w/stock carbs made 150 hp. 30 hp = $4000, that was the
first
motor. It's true what they say, "If you want to play, you have to
play".
Vern
S_Moore wrote:
>
> I was amazed recently when I saw someone post a message about
getting
> a "trick" new carb system and a "new improved" 4/2 exhaust that
only
> gave them
> an additional 25 RWH ...........
> Is spending $3000.00+ plus labor normal for getting 25 more
horse
> power from the
> Vmax engine ??
>
> Steve Moore 94
Vmax
> VMOA#1368
>
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:01:09 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Vmax] horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes Steve that is pretty common. About the only other options you
have is
NOS or a bigbore setup from someone like PCW which will run you
about $6k to
get 150 rwhp. I assume that you are reffering to Hal's bike. Youi
must also
think in terms of percentage gained. Hal gained clse to 24% more
hp. If you
look at what it takes to do that to any engine for example if you
start with
a 345 hp c-5 engine from a new Corvette, to duplicate Hal's results
you would
have to gain close to 90 hp. Or on a GSXR 1300 you would have to
pick over
38 rwhp from stock. That would be difficult for less that $3000.
About the
only bike that you can do that with is a 1200 bandit. But that is a
horse of
a different color. Very de-tuned from the start as well as being
the small
block chevy of the mototcycle world. Swap parts with about any
other suzuki
made.
Scott
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:14:11 -0400
From: "Eric Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Brakes
Message-ID: <023a01c03f4e$a255b9e0$7520e6d8@ebh>
On the late model forks they require a complete new bracket. On the
early model forks it is much simpler.
The systems that I have seen used the stock master .
You do have to keep a close eye on the fluid level.
Eric H.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "V-MAX TECH LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: Brakes
> Still didn't work Eric.
> Anyway, back onto the brakes. I got a bit more air out of the
master I
> believe by doing Mario's tapping on the lever. It feels virtually
normal now
> but it's still raining so I won't get out till tommorrow or
Saturday
(I'm a
> day in front of you) to try it properly.
> I also agree that maybe the 6 piston brakes are super strong but
my
brothers
> XJR-1300 has R1 calipers, weighs about 70-80lbs. less than a Max
and
stops
> extremely well. It's lighter than a V-Max but lots heavier than an
R1.
> Let me know how your 6 piston setup works, will you be fitting
them
with
> stock master cylinder? and do the require adapters to fit?
>
> Sam Blumenstein #795
>
> Eric Harnish wrote:
>
> > Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] See if this works
> > Eric
>
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:45:07 GMT
From: "Darrell Bivens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: For Sale (Factory Service Manual)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have a slightly used Yamaha Factory Service Manual, its been
through a
couple of clutch jobs and a tranny rebuild so its a little rough
around the
edges otherwise its perfectly legible and in good condition.
For Sale $50.00 + Shipping.
Darrell Bivens
95 Vmax
281-792-5826
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:50:57 -0600
From: "Sat Tara S. Khalsa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on 10/26/00 6:51 AM, Vern Hathaway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
It's true what they say, "If you want to play, you have to play".
> Vern
???
It's not often we get a profound existential statement like this on
the
list. I'm not sure what it means yet, but I'm working on it...
lol
Sat Tara
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:00:13 -0500
From: Vern Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OOOOpppss PAY, PAY, one of these days I'm taking a typing class! I'm
a
one finger pecker <G>
Vern
"Sat Tara S. Khalsa" wrote:
>
> on 10/26/00 6:51 AM, Vern Hathaway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> snip
> It's true what they say, "If you want to play, you have to play".
>
> > Vern
>
> ???
>
> It's not often we get a profound existential statement like this
on the
> list. I'm not sure what it means yet, but I'm working on it...
>
> lol
> Sat Tara
>
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:22:29 -0700
From: "TC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <001501c03f58$3909f640$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Steve,
IMHO .. if you are lucky you can get the first 10, (probably not
really that much .. depends on where you want to start counting),
for
less than $1K. On the bright side is the fact that you will likely
lose 20-30 lbs with most aftermarket exhaust systems, (more likely
25
or less but it takes horsepower to haul everyone's big butt around
town ...). Dracer .. just got 121+ w/ a pipe and a stage 7, (close
enough to that first $1K), and lost the weight ... He might squeeze
a
little more out .. but I think it is more realistic to say you can
start counting from 120 with a deposit of $1K ..... After that .. if
you put flatslides on or something to get a solid 130, (typical),
then
you are getting close to your figure. Just think what it costs to
get
10-20 more than that ....
There certainly are dynos out there though that get themselves
between
125 and 130 on just the pipe, jetting and some creativity .... but I
think this is an exception. Of course .. you could have the bores
opened up on your carbs, (38mm), cleanup your manifolds, pull the
heads for some mild port touch-up and a lot of other things that
might
not be quite as expensive, (but certainly more labor intensive). You
could always put nitrous on for emergencies .. I guess it depends on
how much you want and how you are going to use it ...... I think
most
modern motorcycle engines are doing a pretty good job of squeezing a
lot of hp out of some very small displacements, (this isn't a ford
pinto). After you pick up a few freebees, (maybe), by removing some
exhaust and intake restriction it is going to get expensive ... Even
those few freebees don't really come that cheap as many end up with
less than what they started with or make their lives miserable by
inflicting full time driveability problems and tuning sensitivity.
Of
course if you want to do some labor yourself the 1260 might be very
competitive pricing wise, (cheaper), and give you more back from any
of the aforementioned freebees, (get the engine bored/squared
locally
... send your crank out to Falicon for balancing .. or the whole
rotating assembly if you don't want to do the pistons/rods yourself
etc) ..... If you just want to squeeze a little more out on the
dyno
.. then put a lighter wheel/tire on the back .. a lightened flywheel
.. have the operator adjust your correction factor etc ..
There was a 1989 Motorcyclist article called "Artillery" that was
floating around. It is great reference material and it might have
been
a freebee download on the UK site etc .. But this guy among other
things did the 38mm carb routine, a local 1260 piston kit w/
balancing
and local machine work, a Megacycle 257 degree cam w/ a spring kit
..
After bolting on a garden variety Kerker white tip it made 142 RWHP
@
9500 ....... this is good but this thing also made 122 RWHP @ 7000
RPM
.... so you see you are playing in a different sand box all
together.
If you can't find this article I think I have it somewhere ... I
could
post it on a web site for a few days at risk of getting handcuffed
...... hmmmmmmm .... I need to ask those people if they will let us
do
a re-print ... Anyhow ... this article is as I said .. great
reference
material with exceptional detail.
campbell #95
----- Original Message -----
From: "S_Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: horsepower increase per dollar
> I was amazed recently when I saw someone post a
> message about getting a "trick" new carb system
> and a "new improved" 4/2 exhaust that only
> gave them an additional 25 RWH ...........
> Is spending $3000.00+ plus labor normal
> for getting 25 more horse power from the
> Vmax engine ??
> Steve Moore 94 Vmax
> VMOA#1368
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:40:07 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
would really be interested to read the article TC, if you still have
it .
Dracer
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:39:11 US/Central
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], V-MAX TECH LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Vmax] horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yes Steve that is pretty common. About the only other options you
have is
> NOS or a bigbore setup from someone like PCW which will run you
about $6k to
> get 150 rwhp. I assume that you are reffering to Hal's bike.
Youi must also
> think in terms of percentage gained. Hal gained clse to 24% more
hp. If you
> look at what it takes to do that to any engine for example if you
start with
> a 345 hp c-5 engine from a new Corvette, to duplicate Hal's
results you would
> have to gain close to 90 hp. Or on a GSXR 1300 you would have to
pick over
> 38 rwhp from stock. That would be difficult for less that $3000.
About the
> only bike that you can do that with is a 1200 bandit. But that is
a horse of
> a different color. Very de-tuned from the start as well as being
the small
> block chevy of the mototcycle world. Swap parts with about any
other suzuki
> made.
>
> Scott
> ..............................................
> To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm
> ..............................................
>
Your reference to the Bandit strikes a sad chord. 7-8 grand for the
bike, less
than 4 grand for a Mr. Turbo kit and Voila! A serious street
terror. Too bad
there's not a decent turbo kit readily available for the Vmax.
Maybe some of
you oldtimers know the full scoop on that, but it seems a cryin'
shame to me.
Terry Kizer sells turbos for every other worthwhile bike BUT the
Vmax. I
remember Don Smith bringing up Terry's name in reference to a failed
attempt to
market a Vmax turbo. What happened? I saw Terry's kit on a
Hayabusa and was
impressed with just how well it worked, no lag - just gobs of power.
Now that
would be a much bigger bang for the buck.
Hal
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:02:27 -0400
From: "Wayne pettipas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "V-Max@Sayegh. Org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yo Techies!!
Anyone out there done aluminium polishing??
I've been busy lately polishing up some of the aluminium parts but
am
looking for a method, tools, etc that does the job easier and
better.
Regards
Wayne
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Tel 613-596-9473
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:20:41 -1000
From: "Thomas Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Brakes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Eric, what pads is your brother using?
====================================
Thomas and Carrie Powell
1994 NOS injected
Tourmaster V-Max
"LAFGAS"
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: V-MAX TECH LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: Brakes
> Still didn't work Eric.
> Anyway, back onto the brakes. I got a bit more air out of the
master I
> believe by doing Mario's tapping on the lever. It feels virtually
normal
now
> but it's still raining so I won't get out till tommorrow or
Saturday (I'm
a
> day in front of you) to try it properly.
> I also agree that maybe the 6 piston brakes are super strong but
my
brothers
> XJR-1300 has R1 calipers, weighs about 70-80lbs. less than a Max
and stops
> extremely well. It's lighter than a V-Max but lots heavier than an
R1.
> Let me know how your 6 piston setup works, will you be fitting
them with
> stock master cylinder? and do the require adapters to fit?
>
> Sam Blumenstein #795
>
> Eric Harnish wrote:
>
> > Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] See if this works
> > Eric
>
> .............................................
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:31:03 -0700
From: "TC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <001f01c03f72$851d85a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dracer,
I did find the article this morning, (I think it was Tyler who sent
it
too me anyhow ...), unfortunately .... I was looking over it again
and
it is so good I asked Motorcyclist if we could re-print it and put
it
in the V-Boost. I just received that authorization. It just missed
4.3, (at the meat grinder), so it will appear in our 4.4 issue that
will be delivered in January .... sorry .. just hang on a few more
months ...... sigh .....
campbell - #95
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
> would really be interested to read the article
> TC, if you still have it .
> Dracer
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:55:14 -0400
From: "Mario C. Aguiar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
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Vern Hathaway wrote:
> It's true what they say, "If you want to play, you have to play".
>
Hey Vernando,
Wasn't supposed to read "If you want to play, you have to pay???"
No comprende, huh??
Mario
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Hey Vernando,
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<p>No comprende, huh??
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:04:26 -0400
From: "Mario C. Aguiar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TC wrote:.
> There was a 1989 Motorcyclist article called "Artillery" that was
> floating around. It is great reference material and it might have
been
> a freebee download on the UK site etc .. But this guy among other
> things did the 38mm carb routine, a local 1260 piston kit w/
balancing
> and local machine work, a Megacycle 257 degree cam w/ a spring kit
..
> After bolting on a garden variety Kerker white tip it made 142
RWHP @
> 9500 ....... this is good but this thing also made 122 RWHP @ 7000
RPM
> .... so you see you are playing in a different sand box all
together.
> If you can't find this article I think I have it somewhere ... I
could
> post it on a web site for a few days at risk of getting handcuffed
> ...... hmmmmmmm .... I need to ask those people if they will let
us do
> a re-print ... Anyhow ... this article is as I said .. great
reference
> material with exceptional detail.
> campbell #95
Yellow bike, called "Insanity" painted by "Pugh & Pugh", with an air
dam
like mine... I got that issue!!!!
Mario
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:01:56 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: horsepower increase per dollar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
thanks buddy, looking foward to reading it
Dracer
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