On Sunday 15 June 2008 12:22, AJ ONeal wrote: > I'll have to post my pics sometime. My blog is a paper one so it's > my-eyes-only atm. It must have been some tough country you were working in! With Kosovars? Orthodox Xians? What on earth were you doing? Cant wait to see! > > We party hard, what can I say? It was only two actually. Somehow mormons and hard-partying seems oxymoronic to me, but hey, we're not exactly on the gurlz-gone-wild listserv either:)
> I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that you needed to
> upgrade to edgy to then upgrade to fiesty and so forth and couldn't find the
> edgy iso.
No, my understanding is that before upgrading one should update first; which i
cant do
since edgy is kaput. It also means my sources.list is worthless, so trying to
install say
python-notify for some app i just d/l's wont happen.
(I d/l the .deb file and dpkg -i but i was missing libnotify (i think) - so im
SOL:()
> ubuntu only supports a version for so many years, my guess is that edgy
> expired.
Dropping support is one thing, deleting the repo is another entirely!
> The difference between any 'buntu and the next is just the
> repo and meta-package that it uses. If you want to switch from ubuntu to
> kubuntu and then to xubuntu or server or desktop all you have to do is
> uncheck the ubuntu-desktop in synaptic and check kubuntu-server, etc.
I really know like GUI package management, specially synaptic. And w/out have
the entire CD set in hand for emergencies, doing things like "vim sources.list
&& s/edgy/feisty/g"
makes me very nervous! Let alone trying to switch from Ku to Xu or Mu
> Assuming that you didn't install any software of your own choosing that is
> dependant on gnome, the entire gnome desktop will disappear and be entirely
> replaced by a kubuntu server.
Well, i dont run gnome WM (i like e17), but do use some/many gnome apps, so
that leaves that out
>
> For edubuntu and a few others you're just adding a repo.
> Some 'buntus aren't distro's, they're just repos. I think that Mint is it's
> own distro, while medibuntu is just a repo with about 30 software packages
I have a pretty extensive sources.list (had from Trevino), but have seen
nothing for mediabuntu.
Do you have info?
> in it that have been removed from hardy due to copyright issues (that's
> right, they took out libdecss /again/ and it's not even in universe / "bad"
> or restricted / "ugly".
Things like decss i can/have installed from source and isolated into those apps
that require it
by wrapping the app in a shell script which appends an LDLIBRARY path.
> Well, the hardy Alternate CD is what you're looking for then. If you rm -rf
> ~/.gconf* and any other app config dirs after the upgrade I imagine that it
> will work just fine.
Thanks for that pointer. I may have overlooked that.
> All of my problems were Desktop Environment related as
> far as I could tell and simply logging in as new user seemed to solve them.
> You also might want to take a look at that script I have if you want to keep
> DVD video support, etc - or visit the medi-buntu site yourself.
I have a strong dislike for a) a /usr/bin/ dir that holds everything including
the
kitchen sink and b) putting executables in places like /usr/lib and /usr/share
I generally would prefer compartmentalization and the extra overhead of adding
lines to ld.so.conf and path info for bins and manpages etc..
But containing graphics related stuff in /opt/graphics and non-system stuff in
/usr/local, etc..
usually means either building from source and setting --prefix (and maybe a
wrapper script or two),
or re-packaging the app to get more control over its dest dir.
I realize no linux distro manages packages to perfection, and the packaged app
is not usually the
latest release (i do dislike the naming convention ubuntu uses tho). But my
issue is liking to rely
on the distro having the apps i like/use and automagically handling them versus
the PITA of doing so
when i want either more control or a newer version. I dont think i'm ever going
to get into the cozy middle of this,
but yum has proven easier in this regard than apt. I should probably look into
gentoo if i want to be a pkg overlord,
but i dont have the time or inclination for dealing w/another distro right now.
>
> My file is a misnomer, it's just a script that I use primarily to add media
> "ugly" support, windows compat, and a few tweaks like adblock.
> I'm running Ubuntu Hardy.
Come on, give it up:)
Be well AJ,
Rion
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