We don't have a problem with the license for the VCL software.

What we are finding is that the constraints on vendor software licenses for 
products that we want to run on the VMs could significantly limit how useful 
the VCL is in practice.  And it is not that the vendors are not understanding 
the VCL, but rather telling us that the ownership (university owned or student 
owned) of the machine being used to access the VMs factors into what is allowed 
by our licenses.


From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:l...@toolazydogs.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:53 PM
To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Licensing aspects of a VCL project

On Jun 2, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Woods, David M. Dr. wrote:


  I've asked about this before, and didn't get a lot of response, but licensing 
issues are turning out to be a major issue in our VCL pilot project, so I would 
be interested in talking to anyone who can share licensing details of software 
that is being provided to students in a VCL environment.

  We are finding that software vendors understand the VCL concept.  In general, 
licenses allow the software to run on university owned machines, so it's legal 
to run in a VM.  Where some vendors have problems is providing access to this 
software from student (or any machines not owned by the university) machines.  
Some vendors don't have a problem with this, but some tell us that this is not 
allowed.  It doesn't make a lot of sense to me - it's not a problem for a 
student to access the VCL from a university owned PC in a lab, but is a problem 
for the student to access the VCL from a machine owned by a student?

  The vendors would be happy to sell us additional licenses to allow us to 
allow students to access the VCL from the student's personal machine, but this 
would add a lot to the cost of a full scale VCL implementation, so we would 
like to learn more about licensing at other places that have implemented a VCL 
to check with what vendors are telling us.  If you have a licensing manager who 
would be willing to talk to our licensing manager, please send  me contact info.

Do I understand correctly when I say that you do not have a licensing problem 
installing the core VCL, VCL-2.1 as distributed from the Apache Software 
Foundation, but have discovered licensing issues w/ subsequent vendor specific 


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