Thursday, February 27, 2003, 7:13:22 PM, Tim Colson wrote:

>> > The community
>> > has been willing to contribute and to develop velocity (a *lot* of
>> > things could / need to be done!) - but...
>
> Where are the submitted patches from the community? 
> Seems mostly just idle talk. ;-)
>
>> Guys, why don't you report the problem to the Apache leaders? 
> Jakarta Jetspeed has been in beta-alpha-beta status for almost 3 years.
> Struts 1.1 has been in beta/RC status for ...ever. <grin>

Really... /-: Well, I use only Ant and ORO among Apache stuff... Seems
that I have chosen he right projects then. :)

> As for Geir "disappearing", I'd say we just got spoiled with the amazing
> amount of time he used to spend on this completely volunteer project. 
>
> I'd like to see the 1.3.x build get a 'final release' moniker too, but I
> doubt complaining to the "Apache leaders"

If it is so common that projects are dyeing here, then of course it is
stupid idea to mock Apache leaders...

> and will enthuse Gier or any other sane volunteer to spend more time
> doing that work for free.

Why? Some counties are really rich... with 5x8 hours working you have
roof over your head, you have food... etc. If all of these is done, then
it is really not a that big sacrifice to do some voluntary job. Well,
OK, of course you need a computer and Internet... but it is still not a
big deal in many counties.

> Open source is such a thankless job. ;-)

If you measure income in money.... :)

-- 
Best regards,
 Daniel Dekany



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