I'm confused about one important point:

We use Subclipse, a fully integrated Eclipse plugin, for all code
sharing within my small research group.  Since we do all our code
development in Eclipse, I would think that neither Versions or
Cornerstone would be of use to us. Or is that not true?

Here's a discussion (2008) comparing Versions and Cornerstone at
http://jadeohlhauser.com/2008/c_vs_v/
Both have changed since then, of course.

I've been watching this Versions list for maybe a year.  The negative
traffic has chilled any thoughts I had for actually using Versions for
anything.  I'm waiting until I see a lot less negative on the list
before putting my toe in the water. Also, if neither Versions nor
Cornerstone can be fully integrated into the code development we do in
Eclipse, then I'm at a loss as to why we should use either.

Bob

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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Vincent Robbesom
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Marijn/theDo,
>
> I didn't mean to come across as defensively as I did, sorry about
> that.
>
> Having read your messages again I realize you care a lot about
> Versions.
>
> Development of the next release is going in a steady pace and we are
> looking forward to present it to you,
> and to tell everyone here more about it as soon as possible.  This
> release is not a 2.0, so it will be free of charge.
>
> Kind regards,
> Vincent
>
>
> On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Vincent,
>>
>> I'm just curious what Cornerstone currently offers that Versions
>> doesn't (This is actually the first I've heard of Cornerstone).  I've
>> been pretty happy with Versions so far, but like to stay on top of
>> what is current.
>>
>> On Nov 2, 7:51 am, Vincent Robbesom <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello Marijn
>>
>> > That's ok Marijn, work has to be done on your site too.. though we're
>> > sorry not to be able to live up to your time schedule.
>> > Developers aint hanging around lazy doing bits and bites around here,
>> > it is really lots of work..
>>
>> > The To Do list on the new release is rather huge but it is definitely
>> > moving in the right direction.
>> > The new Versions will be far more stable, the rough edges will be gone
>> > and there is a modest but very functional feature list to
>> > implemented.
>> > The people that can wait (a little longer) won't be disappointed, I'm
>> > sure about that.
>>
>> > Maybe you can trial cornerstone..
>>
>> > Friendly regards,
>> > Vincent
>>
>> > On Nov 2, 11:39 am, Marijn Huizendveld <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > Hi Vincent,
>>
>> > > Unfortunately that isn't the response I was hoping for. Depending on
>> > > my colleagues decision I will now most probably move to Cornerstome.
>> > > This is really such a shame. One would expect at least a estimate
>> > > timeframe could be agreed upon...
>>
>> > > Too bad, really, but my patience has run out.
>>
>> > > Kind regards,
>>
>> > > Marijn
>>
>> > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Vincent Robbesom wrote:
>>
>> > > > Hey guys!
>>
>> > > > At this moment there is being worked on the bug reports of Versions.
>> > > > The screens, the memory issues and a dozen other things to do...
>> > > > However, Since this is not our only product, we don't have any exact
>> > > > timeframe yet.
>> > > > However we do realize the urge for improvement. No way versions get
>> > > > snowed in but things cost time and effort…
>>
>> > > > Keep posting on the support site an please be patient.
>>
>> > > > Kind regards,
>> > > > Vincent
>>
>> > > > On Nov 2, 5:49 am, TheDO <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >> I wholeheartedly agree with you. I've personally recommended Versions
>> > > >> a few times to my colleagues, and now I feel embarrassed because of
>> > > >> the sluggish updates to Versions. I, along with several others,
>> > > >> continue pushing the Sofa team to speed up development, but I
>> > > >> personally fear that means version 2.0, which will require a new
>> > > >> license. I've been waiting several months for some minor improvements
>> > > >> to Versions. The latest version even introduced some new issues that
>> > > >> interfere with my workflow (ie. the sheet that stays on the screen
>> > > >> when switching apps). I completely empathize with the challenges
>> > > >> involved in software development, but when I also observe some teams
>> > > >> keeping a nice pace with updates to their products, so I know it can
>> > > >> be done. Let's see Versions jump to the front of the pack and get
>> > > >> into
>> > > >> the headlines again. It has amazing potential for really raising the
>> > > >> bar on the Mac.
>>
>> > > >> /TheDO/
>>
>> > > >> On Oct 30, 9:34 am, Marijn Huizendveld <[email protected]>
>> > > >> wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> Hi guys,
>>
>> > > >>> I really hate to ask this question again but I feel I have to. Is a
>> > > >>> new significant release to be expected anytime soon?
>>
>> > > >>> The reason why I'm asking is I finally convinced some freelance
>> > > >>> colleagues  of mine to start using SVN. Now they need to buy a
>> > > >>> client
>> > > >>> and at the moment I can't really say I'd recommend Versions over
>> > > >>> Conerstone... The current state makes me consider moving over to
>> > > >>> cornerstone, I can pitch in with their group license anyway so it
>> > > >>> won't be that expensive. That's really a pity, I've been using it
>> > > >>> since the one of the first public betas.
>> > > >>> I do feel bad about it because I really would like to support a
>> > > >>> product from my hometown and I really admire the products of Sofa
>> > > >>> but
>> > > >>> that simply can't be the winning argument.
>>
>> > > >>> Please make me reconsider.
>>
>> > > >>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> > > >>> Marijn Huizendveld
> >
>

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