Mel wrote: "If you have to think about how to reel when you have a fish on you are missing the reasons for angling."
This is true. The style of fishing and the target fish and how you will fish it has to be settled as you set up your rod. How you reel, righty or lefty, has to be settled and practiced (comfortable) even before that. For me, I hear all of the discussions in a different way. Some people catch a fish. That is true most of the time. I catch trout, too. But some fisherman (on some trips- like me) have to fight a fish, and then the story changes. Whether you use a direct drive or an indirect drive reel is settled when you purchase the new reel while considering the target fish and your busted and bloody reel-hand knuckles from the last trip (salmon, dorado, billfish, stripers, tuna, etc- big gamefish- over 40#). Reeling in a trout or panfish in is not like reeling in a big gamefish. Everything is different with big gamefish. One mistake and the fish is history, and maybe with your expensive gear to boot. You must re-think your gear, your strategy, yourself. Everything will be challenged to the maxumum. Any weakness equals a lost fish, lost gear, and maybe an ended trip. I need to make this clear to anyone targeting the big fish with a fly rod. You shouldn't reel the fish in. You can reel in slack line- off the deck or a belly in the line. You can reel in line below the drag setting after the pump, which is pretty low because of the low tippet strength used compared to the fish. Other than that, it's pretty much a stale-mate on the reel. Drop your left arm and rest it- you'll need it refreshed real soon. Pump the rod, then reel in as you drop the rod. Then, if he comes at you, reel in like the dickens. The most dangerous time is while casting and hooking the fish, and there is slack line from the cast and from stripping. Once you hook the fish, forget him for a second and mind your slack line. He's taking off at 50mph and isn't stopping for anything being caught up by the line- toes, fingers, clothes, gear. Use a line-set to hook the fish (#1) and then just guide the line out while guiding the slack until it's on the reel. Hurdle #2 over if you can get him on the reel. Now you can pay attention to the fish as he runs for the horizon. Now you can tension the drag by the angle of the rod to the horizon. The lower it is, the more pressure you are putting on the fish. You have time here, 400 to 700 yards of backing on your reel. Stop the run or give chase. By the way, this all has to happen with the rod in the casting hand. Then, when the fish is not running out line against the drag, you pump the rod, always keeping it as low as possible. Lift the rod high under pressure and it may explode. Keep it low to the horizon. As you pump the rod, you'll feel if he comes in with the pump. If not, stop pumping and rest a little, keeping pressure on the fish to wear him down. With fish that go airborne, like sails and dorado, different drag and rod tactics are needed. I prefer a bent rod with backed off drag. Others point the rod at the fish. I've never lost a big fish, other than to sharks. The fighting mate to your rod is the drag, not the reel handle. The battle is won or lost on rod and drag control. Reeling in is just a method of keeping slack line off the deck or getting big bellies of slack out of the water as the fish changes directions. Most of the battle will be in the dacron backing, which will cut you to the bone in an instant, so again you want to keep the fight on the reel from hook-set slack-up to landing. I reset the drag 20 or 30 times or more during a fight, depending on what the fish is doing and what I intend to do. Drag and rod angle are the keys. Once you're into the fight, you can give your right arm a break by swapping it to the left hand, best done suring stale-mate sessions. A fighting glove helps your rod-hand not to wear out. After the fish is landed, you will drink your water with your left hand, as you can barely hold the right hand up. What is challenging is to have the next fish come in and cast to it with a wore-out arm. Then the fight starts with no gas in the tank. Fun! I've caught five 40# + dorado, one hour each to land, back-to-back, no rest. (My exercise- hedge-clipping and pruning with a 20# weight attached to the pruners halfway out, hanging from a rope.) REELS: Direct drive or indirect drive. I have an direct drive Able 14 wt and an indirect drive Billy Pate 12wt. Neither is best- each has it's advantage. The direct drive has better fish control, and the indirect drive won't bust up your knuckles. Take your pick. I like my Billy Pate because the drag is on the same side as the handle and I can just play the fish with the drag. With the Able, I can palm the reel on a low drag setting for some extra drag control, then tighten up when I can pump him in. With the Able I can hang on to the last second to try to break that next run. But the Able will then bust up my knuckles before I can get them out of the way with all that pressure on the reel. Landing the big fish. When he is ready to give a big heave-ho to get him in, gaffed, or tailed, back off on the drag and grab the flyline with your hand and a loop over one finger- quick release. That way, if he breaks free, he won't break your rod with the close angles and quarters, or snap the tippet. He'll just run out a little, and then start the landing all over. Man, I miss the salt! Gotta get back out there. DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: mel hocken To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Fellow Anglers Do what feels the best for you. Reel left, reel right, doesn't make any difference. If you have to think about how to reel when you have a fish on you are missing the reasons for angling. Just go and enjoy the great outdoors; the land, trees, air , sky, water and the fish. Then share your experiences with your angling fellowship. Some baseball players bat left some bat right; if you are hitting the ball the only good advise you get is what time the game starts. The trouble with fly anglers is they try to make everything to damned complicated. Regards Mel Hocken ----- Original Message ----- From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Been a while since I was called a “youngster”J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Eckert Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:45 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I do not think we should make a rule who has to reel left or right – we older (experienced?) reel with our dominant hand and the youngsters do it (logical) the logic way … Thomas alaska info Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von George E Vincent Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2009 18:22 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D <BR --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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