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Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



> On Nov 20, 2014, at 5:25 AM, Allan Fish <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> If you get hold of aniline dyes be sure to wear good rubber gloves. And a 
> mask wouldn't be out of order either. Not only do they dye your hands, they 
> are absorbed through the skin. Think about liver problems,cancer and other 
> fun things like that. 
> 
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>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Phxflytyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> What about using anilin dyes?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Phoenix, AZ.
>> 
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> May I suggest, before you have done  the dyeing, etc. that you may want to 
>>> just keep the grizzly hackle without dyeing  it and go to 
>>> Lakelandflytying.com in the UK and just buy one of their Whiting saddles or 
>>> necks in the color you want. They have the best dyed feathers I have ever 
>>> had the chance to use, and in wonderful blacks, including a claret black 
>>> that is superb on tiny midges.  For a natural black, you will want to check 
>>> out the people who bought Denny Conrad's stock.  He has natural blacks that 
>>> are awesome.  Joyce
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:09 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Chuck:
>>>>   The dyes in that kit are not the same as Kool Aid unless you're thinking 
>>>> Jonestown or the dyes you see in the stores around Easter time. In the 
>>>> instructions that came with the kit in large letters is "Do not eat any 
>>>> egg treated with these dyes"  I've thought about picking up a couple of 
>>>> packs of the people friendly Easter egg dyes in the $Store after Easter.  
>>>> Good Luck.  Just remember that a black hackle neck is not a black grizzly 
>>>> hackle neck.
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry C
>>>> "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Jerry: Thanks. I bet my daughter has some of those dye tablet left over. 
>>>> And
>>>> if she don't have black I guess I could try it the way my printer makes
>>>> "black" using the red, blue and yellow mixed to make "black". But I'll bet
>>>> that type dye would be about the same thing as the dyes in Kool Aid (food
>>>> grade dyes) with the vinegar added to "set" the colors. Anyway, I guess I
>>>> could try just a few feathers and see what happens. Maybe I should just
>>>> break down and tell my wife I want a black hackle  neck for an early
>>>> Christmas gift. I HAVE been a "good little boy" this year after all LOL..
>>>> When I'm asleep at least hahaha. At least all the great tips are giving me 
>>>> a
>>>> lot of options to try to see what works best for me. I think I have a light
>>>> cream colored neck that might come out better than my idea of starting with
>>>> a grizzly neck anyway. Thanks again, Chuck
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck:
>>>>   I've only dyed grizzly hackle one time.  I had several grizzly saddles of
>>>> various quality where I had used up most of the good dry fly hackle and had
>>>> found an old Ukrainian Easter Egg kit my grandmother had used to make the
>>>> eggs.  There were several packets of dye left including black.  So I
>>>> followed the directions which included adding vinegar to the mix and came
>>>> out with some decent grizzly hackles, dark green, yellow, orange, red,
>>>> purple and black.  The grizzly dyed black came out all black, you can see
>>>> the grizzly pattern, I think because the dyed black part is a bit glossier
>>>> and maybe a bit darker than the dyed white portion.  Go for it.
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry Caruso
>>>> "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Folks: Can anybody give me the “secret” to dying feathers (and/or fabric)
>>>> with Rit dye?? What happened is that my son had some dark purple demin
>>>> material he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the three
>>>> gallons or so of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde the
>>>> salt but not the vinegar as it said to only use the vinegar with salt if 
>>>> the
>>>> material is silk or wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a boil, then
>>>> let it soak all day. Still just came out a darker purple and NIT jet black
>>>> like the dye is.
>>>> 
>>>> Now is my problem in that. He saved the water as I have a ton of grizzly
>>>> feathers, but hardly any black, so I was just going to sye a grizzly neck 
>>>> in
>>>> that same dye water mix after he finished. But I don’t want the grizzly to
>>>> go from black and white, to purple ad white. Any tips?? Should I add
>>>> vinegar?? Thanks, Chuck
>>>> 
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