Dharma Trading is a good resource for learning about the various dyes and
procedures. They service craftspeople, tie dyers, and the like.  Excellent
color charts and service.

http://www.dharmatrading.com/dyes/index.html

Wes
Bend, Oregon

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Chuck Alexander <
[email protected]> wrote:

>   Will do, Chuck
>
>  *From:* Allan Fish <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:25 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???
>
>  If you get hold of aniline dyes be sure to wear good rubber gloves. And
> a mask wouldn't be out of order either. Not only do they dye your hands,
> they are absorbed through the skin. Think about liver problems,cancer and
> other fun things like that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Phxflytyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  What about using anilin dyes?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  May I suggest, before you have done  the dyeing, etc. that you may want
> to just keep the grizzly hackle without dyeing  it and go to
> Lakelandflytying.com in the UK and just buy one of their Whiting saddles
> or necks in the color you want. They have the best dyed feathers I have
> ever had the chance to use, and in wonderful blacks, including a claret
> black that is superb on tiny midges.  For a natural black, you will want to
> check out the people who bought Denny Conrad's stock.  He has natural
> blacks that are awesome.  Joyce
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:09 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Chuck:
>>   The dyes in that kit are not the same as Kool Aid unless you're
>> thinking Jonestown or the dyes you see in the stores around Easter time. In
>> the instructions that came with the kit in large letters is "Do not eat any
>> egg treated with these dyes"  I've thought about picking up a couple of
>> packs of the people friendly Easter egg dyes in the $Store after Easter.
>> Good Luck.  Just remember that a black hackle neck is not a black grizzly
>> hackle neck.
>>
>> Jerry C
>>  "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> Jerry: Thanks. I bet my daughter has some of those dye tablet left over.
>> And
>> if she don't have black I guess I could try it the way my printer makes
>> "black" using the red, blue and yellow mixed to make "black". But I'll bet
>> that type dye would be about the same thing as the dyes in Kool Aid (food
>> grade dyes) with the vinegar added to "set" the colors. Anyway, I guess I
>> could try just a few feathers and see what happens. Maybe I should just
>> break down and tell my wife I want a black hackle  neck for an early
>> Christmas gift. I HAVE been a "good little boy" this year after all LOL..
>> When I'm asleep at least hahaha. At least all the great tips are giving
>> me a
>> lot of options to try to see what works best for me. I think I have a
>> light
>> cream colored neck that might come out better than my idea of starting
>> with
>> a grizzly neck anyway. Thanks again, Chuck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:22 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???
>>
>> Chuck:
>>   I've only dyed grizzly hackle one time.  I had several grizzly saddles
>> of
>> various quality where I had used up most of the good dry fly hackle and
>> had
>> found an old Ukrainian Easter Egg kit my grandmother had used to make the
>> eggs.  There were several packets of dye left including black.  So I
>> followed the directions which included adding vinegar to the mix and came
>> out with some decent grizzly hackles, dark green, yellow, orange, red,
>> purple and black.  The grizzly dyed black came out all black, you can see
>> the grizzly pattern, I think because the dyed black part is a bit glossier
>> and maybe a bit darker than the dyed white portion.  Go for it.
>>
>> Jerry Caruso
>> "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> Folks: Can anybody give me the “secret” to dying feathers (and/or fabric)
>> with Rit dye?? What happened is that my son had some dark purple demin
>> material he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the three
>> gallons or so of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde the
>> salt but not the vinegar as it said to only use the vinegar with salt if
>> the
>> material is silk or wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a boil, then
>> let it soak all day. Still just came out a darker purple and NIT jet black
>> like the dye is.
>>
>> Now is my problem in that. He saved the water as I have a ton of grizzly
>> feathers, but hardly any black, so I was just going to sye a grizzly neck
>> in
>> that same dye water mix after he finished. But I don’t want the grizzly to
>> go from black and white, to purple ad white. Any tips?? Should I add
>> vinegar?? Thanks, Chuck
>>
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