Steve, thanks for your reply. Agreed on the encoding options. The only thing that I'm not sure of in the H.264 tests was whether it was Baseline or Main. I may have missed mention of H.264-formatted videos available in Baseline. In one of the tutorials Verdi mentions, the presenter says that H.264 is not available for Windows. That may be true (I'm not sure), but a version of H.264 playback *is* available on the Pocket PC, which is what I've been testing.
Great work. I view Michael Verdi and yourself as the vocal experts in this area, and I'm glad of any knowledge I can glean from you two. Any small amount of information I can add I hope will be of some benefit to you and all. Thanks again for your work on this! Greg Smith Author, FeederReader - Pocket PC *direct* RSS text, audio, video, podcasts www.FeederReader.com - Download on the Road --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well most of the methods create mpeg4 which are the same type as most > videobloggers have been using for ages anyway, so likely identical to > stuff youve already tested in the past. > > h264 stuff youve already tried and it doesnt play back at all > appropriately on a pocketpc at the moment. > > Also bear in mind that Michael Verdis guides are optimised for the > delivery side of things as much as playback quality. They use settings > that are way below the spec that the ipod can actually play. Lower > framerate, much worse sound quality, and lower resolution. > > Now I can argue about these things till Im blue in the face, and its > pointless. People vary in which factor is most important to them, its > a compromise between quality and filesize/storage space/download time. > For videoblogging this compromise can be important. Freevlog is for > videoblogging, and it mostly makes the right compromises, if I seem to > criticise it a lot its only because its so influential and important. > > But if for example you dont care about filesize, and want to take a > load of movies and encode them in a way that gives the best results > when you hook your ipod up to the TV, and arent worried about > distribution, the advise will be different. > > Oh Im waffling. > > Alo I noticed I totally mangled a sentence in a previous email so here > is an unmangled version: > > was: > > 'This advice wont apply if people are using other pcature devices that > may for example record straight toa 23x0240 res.' > > should be: > > This advise wont apply if people are using other capture devices that > may for example record straight to a 320x240 resolution. > > Steve of Elbows > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ecomputerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Is there any chance to post actual videos compressed with the listed > > methods. I want to test compatibility with a Pocket PC so we can end > > up with recommended compression method and settings that will be > > compatible with the iPod AND a Pocket PC. My users and I thank you ;- > > ). > > > > Greg Smith > > Author, FeederReader - Pocket PC *direct* RSS text, audio, video, > > podcasts > > www.FeederReader.com - Download on the Road > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Many thanks for the guides/review. > > > > > > In regards the movie to ipod export option, believe it or not the > > > resolution that its giving you is actually a more accurate > > > representation of your NTSC DV footage than 320x240 is. > > > > > > Its an aspect ratio issue. NTSC is 720x480. To turn 720 into 320, > > > divide by 2.25. To maintain the aspect ratio, the same reduction > > > should also be performed on the vertical resolution. But if you > > divive > > > 480 by 2.25, you get 213.3333 not 240. > > > > > > So quicktime is actually just trying to maintain the aspect ratio. > > In > > > other parts of the world that use PAL rather than NTSC, DV res is > > > 720x576. So results are different with PAL footage. I just tried it > > > and my PAL 720x576 footage gets turned into a 300x240 clip. Same > > > reason, its maintaining the aspect ratio. This time its divided the > > > vertical and horizontal resolution by a factor of 2.4. > > > > > > Anyway in practise videobloggers havent been worrying about this > > > stuff, so in every videoblog created with a DV cam, the aspect > > ratio > > > is slightly wrong on the final 320x240 footage. NTSC footage at > > > 320x240 is stretched, so you are slightly thinner than in real > > life. > > > PAL footage is slightly squashed, so I am slightly fatter than in > > real > > > life. > > > > > > > > > More tech info on aspect ratio stuff here: > > > > > > http://www.mir.com/DMG/aspect.html > > > > > > Certainly easier to forget this issue than worry about it I guess, > > but > > > I can see why Apple have done what theyve done on this one. > > > > > > Steve of Elbows > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Export "Movie to iPod (320 X 240)" > > > > I had hoped that this would be an easy to use preset that would > > be > > > > great for videobloggers and the iPod but it's not. If you edit > > some > > > > DV footage and use this option it will make your compressed > > video 320 > > > > X 213 which looks like crap. What this feature seems intended > > for > > > > (and is good at doing) is taking an old quicktime movie > > (compressed > > > > with something else like Sorenson) that you've already > > downloaded and > > > > make it work on you iPod. > > > > > > > > That's about it for now. > > > > Verdi > > > > -- > > > > Me: http://michaelverdi.com > > > > R&D: http://graymattergravy.com > > > > Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org > > > > Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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